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Welcome, Magda. Thanks for your contributions! -FrJohn 20:37, 24 Nov 2004 (CST)

Magda, I never said thank you for the compliment on the OCADOS image I made. Thank you! And thanks for your suggestions on my edits! This message will self-destruct in ten days. Feel free to delete. --Joe Rodgers 00:12, 28 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Account for your husband

You said: "Also, do you have any advice on getting him to sign up for an account?"

Uh, well... you know your husband better than I.  :) Maybe offer him piftia or salad de bef? You could mention that one of his fellow seminarians is on OrthodoxWiki, too: Dcn. Matthew Thurman. --Rdr. Andrew 08:45, 23 Feb 2005 (CST)

Triodion Stuff

Hello Magda! The characterization of the week after the Publican and Pharisee as "the first week of the Triodion" is certainly correct and commonly heard. In your comments on my user talk page, I think (a) and (b) are spot on. I've never heard the pre-Lenten weeks of preparation referred to as the "Triodion". I've only ever heard them referred to as the pre-Lenten weeks of preparation or, in short-hand, pre-Lent.DcnDavid 09:29, 23 Feb 2005 (CST)


At the end of the list of feasts, put a period and then Other events: etc. I'll note this in OrthodoxWiki:Help wanted. --Rdr. Andrew 20:59, 25 Feb 2005 (CST)


I noticed that you were making links for the various saint titles (e.g., Righteous, God-bearing, Venerable, etc.). Do you think we really need separate articles for each of these titles? Saint commemorations already covers some of this sort of thing, no? --Rdr. Andrew 19:40, 26 Feb 2005 (CST)

Follow-up: How about if we create a single article called Saint titles to which these various titles can have redirect links? I do think it would be useful to have an article which explains them.

Regarding the style for the Church Calendar commemorations: I think it would get cumbersome to use the full versions found in Saint commemorations. There seems to be a terser style characteristic of synaxaria and menaia. I don't think we intend for there to be a single menaion that we're using here, but rather a sort of combined menaion with differences noted in parentheses where the custom varies. The one I've been using happens to be the one found in the back of the Antiochian Liturgikon, though I've added in a few extras here and there. --Rdr. Andrew 21:38, 26 Feb 2005 (CST)

Category links

To link to a category without making the current page in that category, use this form:


--Rdr. Andrew 21:38, 27 Feb 2005 (CST)


Hi Magda, I hope you don't mind but I've made you a sysop. Thanks for your work here, Fr. John


Hi, Magda. I don't think it's necessary to have a disambiguation page except for saints with extremely common names (e.g., John, Basil, etc.), and then just make a page with a name like this Basil (disambiguation). I don't think there's a need to link all the individual sainted Basils (or whomever) back to the disambiguation page. I do think it would be best to have disambiguation pages include "(disambiguation)" in the article name, though. There are some people where you wouldn't want to have the bare name article be a disambig. page, such as Jesus (though one theoretically could, since we have people like Jesus of Navi, i.e., the Prophet Joshua).

I agree that it is hard to figure out what to call article names sometimes. Ideally, you'd use whatever you might see on an icon, but of course we probably don't have icons sitting in front of us for a lot of these folks. I'd advise you to do the best you can, and then where you discover potential conflicts, find some way of sorting them out for each situation. --Rdr. Andrew 07:59, 1 Mar 2005 (CST)


I added links as you suggested. Thanks! --Rdr. Andrew 17:32, 14 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Link buttons

Hi Magda,

Well, something like that. I think what you've got is a decent first rought attempt. There are standard sizes for link banners, as well as for simple small-size buttons. There's lots of sites that talk abotu this - here's one I came across in a quick search - one standard size, e.g., is 486 x 60. I'm also thinking of smaller buttons, like many blogs have - see e.g. the very bottom of Thanks1 Fr. John

That's good Magda, I like that one - please do link to it or post a link for it on a link buttons page. About the image - it's pretty generic... I stole it off the web from somewhere, but it's a very common Orthodox symbol, so I don't imagine copyright would apply. Fr. John

Image question

I'm not really clear on what you're asking. Do you want to be able to make an image smaller without having a caption below it but still having an "alternate text" show up when the mouse hovers over it? What do you want to be different in the Isidore of Chios example? --[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 12:42, 14 May 2005 (CDT)

I just added a size specification to the Isidore of Chios page, and it not only obeyed my size stipulation but also shows the caption. Is that what you want? --[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 06:53, 15 May 2005 (CDT)
The only part that seems to be affected by order is that the last element becomes the caption or alt-text (i.e., what gets shown when you float your mouse over the pic).
I think the element that's causing your headache may well be the <div style=...> portion of the template. I don't know how the voodoo for that works, though. Something about it doesn't want a frame/thumb around the pic. Are you trying to get the caption to appear below the images in the date templates? (If so, why?) --[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 16:48, 17 May 2005 (CDT)

Succession template

The reason I used "incumbent" is because it's the placeholder used on Wikipedia, from where I shamelessly stole the template. I'd have no problem with a "—", though. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 09:18, 17 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Register and login

Magda, I think the register or login part on the homepage made sense because if they are a new person then they would register and login, but if they are a current member they don't register and login, they just login. -[[User:Joe Rodgers|Joe ( talk » inspect » chat )]] 02:13, 30 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Church Calendar work

Go Magda! You look like you've been busy. --[[User:Joe Rodgers|Joe ( talk » inspect » chat )]] 14:41, 6 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Magda, could you please explain how you do the calendar pages step by step? I would rather stay consistent and it seems like you may have a system. I would think you do something like this (assuming you are aggregating the info from only online sources):
  • First visit a calendar site (e.g. OCA), copy the contents to a text editor
  • Then visit another site, copy contents to the text editor, delete duplicates
  • Visit another site...repeat
  • Order the saints/feasts in their chronological order
  • Include internal OrthodoxWiki links
I think it would be great if a series of steps could be our guide. Maybe we could them post them as a suggestion at the Church Calendar section of the Style Manual. I just want to be on the same page. It always helps me have a battle plan, I can then plug-and-chug. I will see if I can get Rdr. Andrew to chime in. We know he's got an opinion! :) --[[User:Joe Rodgers|Joe ( talk » inspect » chat )]] 00:24, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Do I have to have an opinion on everything?  :)

It all looks fine to me, both what you mention here and the stuff on OrthodoxWiki_talk:Style Manual (Church Calendar). —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 17:12, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)


I fixed the history link. I'm not sure how to get {{PAGENAME}} to work fully, though it may be a moot point. Copyright violations are unlikely to be ":" articles, since those are all meta-pages, anyway. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 14:51, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

I think it may be fixed now. Try it now. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 15:03, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

This is wacky! I wonder why my usersig is working differently in this section. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 17:18, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)


Happy nameday, Magda! May God grant you many years. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 07:10, 22 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Templates and categories

I'm not sure why that doesn't work here. It works on Wikipedia.  :/ Maybe once we upgrade to a more recent version of the Mediawiki software, it'll work. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 08:56, 22 Jul 2005 (EDT)

For some unknown reason, templates can now add categories to articles. Check out Category:Articles needing cleanup. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 07:51, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)
I think your analysis regarding the template/category inclusion issue seems spot on. I'm not sure how the wiki's database works, but it seems that the categories get kicked in only if the template includes the category before it gets added to the article. Updating the article seems to fix this problem, too. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 09:34, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)


Hi Magda,

Hmm... Maybe I should just axe that article, and integrate some links into a larger page on bioethics. If you're interested in reading more, check out an article online here. Thanks, Fr. John


Thanks for your well-wishes and congratulations. "Baby Gabe" is due on August 6th, so any day now we can expect the little guy. A "transfiguring" experience indeed! Joffridus

Thank you for your note, Magda. When I saw only two red names left of the American saints I thought I'd try to complete the series. But, I really want to thank you and Andrew for being my 'editors'! Your corrections and additions really have added to my inputs. Wsk

Million Mark

Thanks Magda, that's neat. I'll put a note up! - Fr. John


Well... the new testament canon list doesn't say which books are epistles or gospels. So I thought it would be good to differentiate in the epistle page.--Arlie 16:28, 6 Aug 2005 (EDT)


How do you merge an article? If you use AIM we can talk live about this. Thanks. --Arlie 16:31, 8 Aug 2005 (EDT)

I think I have the merge correct for Trisagion and Trisagion Prayer, except for the redirect. Everything is now under Trisagion. I put the redirect info on the Trisagion Prayer page but I don't understand why its not working?--Arlie 12:18, 9 Aug 2005 (EDT)


I am using an article from this website for the basic intro info. I then plan once I gather more info to add to it and cite the sources used including, The Celestial Hierarchy by St. Dionysius the Areopagite. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. --Arlie 14:29, 9 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Desert Fathers/Mothers

I'm not sure of the delineation for these. I do know that there are collections of sayings from these groups. I'm not sure whether Mary of Egypt would qualify, though, as she wasn't part of any of those monastic desert communities. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 16:08, 11 Aug 2005 (EDT)


Thank you for the note. As I seem to make more errors than I'd like, I'm glad to have people like you and Andrew to correct them for me. I should do better, and distract you. Wsk 21:21, 17 Aug 2005 (EDT)


Yes, I think Gospel should be a separate article from Gospels, the former regarding the message of the Gospel itself and the latter discussing the texts of the Gospels. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!)]] 09:32, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)

away page

thanks for the heads-up :D Pistevo 20:57, 23 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Using the Orthodoxwiki for FAQ


I am starting a new yahoo group called "Orthodox Witness" , and I would like to have a Wiki editable FAQ on how to witness Orthodoxy to those who have no faith or who have lost faith. The FAQ would discuss the possible reasons people loose faith, what kind of non-faithful are there (atheists, agnostics, relativists, etc) and what strategies might be most helpful. I was wondering if we could have our Orthodox Witnessing FAQ on the Orthodox Wiki, creating a new article called "Orthodox Witnessing FAQ".

The Wiki format is by far the best option we have, otherwise we would have a very laborious method for editing HTML files every time someone wanted to make a change.

Thank you!

In Christ,

- George.


sorry i put your userpage on protect - it was redirected to an, er, interesting image; and since you're a sysop you can change it if you prefer. is there a way to stop that guy from posting? Pistevo 01:11, 28 Aug 2005 (EDT)