Double-headed Eagle WOW! Thanks for all those amazing additions to the article... you really have helped give it justice! So much so its already had 101 hits and its been on the OW for only 24 hours! This is an example of when I wreckon we all pull in information as a team to give an article some good ooomph! Vasiliki 03:39, April 24, 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Vasiliki, thanks and cheers. Thanks to you for beginning it! Have a look at the whole now, and let me know what you think. I have added all I have at this point and am more or less finished. Only the section on the Byzantine beginnings may need more work and research. Plus whatever other points we may have missed.
- One point I do want to mention however, is have a look at the section on "Emblem of Church of Constantinople and Mount Athos" - I explained why that flag is used by the Greek Orthodox Churches of the *DIASPORA*, being under Constantinople, as well as the Ecumenical Patriarchate itself, and Mount Athos, --- as distinct from the emblem of the Church of Greece. You will see the Church of Greece has a different official depiction of the eagle, as does the Church of Cyprus. Took me a while to put it together because it is not something one usually thinks about, but they are in fact different usuages and are not interchangebale, strictly speaking of course. The Church of Greece, as an autocephalous church, would not have the Golden/Yellow flag, whereas your parish in Australia and mine in Canada would have reference to it.! Angellight 888 04:00, April 24, 2008 (UTC) Cheers ttys.
- Hi! I do not disagree with you on the technical because I have not researched it enough ... however, from practical experience (travelling in Greece) I know for a fact that MANY churches and monasteries in Greece fly the yellow flag with the flag of Greece on their churches and the monasteries. In Athens, they have the yellow flag ... I never really saw the flag with the white background and the red eagle Vasiliki 04:08, April 24, 2008 (UTC)
- I hear you and I know what you mean, the golden flag has mass popular appeal. I'm sure there is no reason why they couldn't fly the Ecumenical flag in Greece, and as you say, they do in many places. However in the interest of clarity, we should point out in the article here that the Church of Greece officially does have a different emblem. You could edit the written section of the article on the Emblem of Constantinople, and say the flag has mass appeal also in Greece and is used there in many places. :):) Angellight 888 04:14, April 24, 2008 (UTC)
- Naaaaagh, I can not write very good articles (so, I keep getting told) because I am a F++ in English grammar! LOL - so, I will leave it for some other person to come along and modify, if they want to :-) Give this article a week or two before it starts attracting the double-headed eagle fans who can correct both of us. BTW, never forget that Church of Greece and Constantinople have in Church history been interchangeable ...its all GREEK! The flags relate to the 'Palaiologos' family - which lived in GREECE! Specifically, in Sparti and as such, the yellow flag has more than 'mass appeal' in Greece, it is actually part of its history and culture ... that is something very hard to explain over the Internet and one really needs to visit and live in GReece to understand what is meant by all this ... Greece and Orthodoxy are linked like the two natures of Christ ... Vasiliki 04:20, April 24, 2008 (UTC)