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There is no getting around 1, 2, and 3. And pointing out 1, 2, and 3, in no way makes me a "detractor" of the AWRV. I fully support the AWRV and fully support their Metropolitan's right to authorize whatever liturgies he sees fit to authorize, which includes both the OM and the SASB. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 21:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC)
== Is the Lord’s Prayer Part of the Canon? ==
Willibrord cites ''The Mass of the Western Rites'' by Dom Fernand Cabrol as evidence that the ''Libera nos'' is part of the canon. This is a less than careful reading of the piece. While the ''Pater'' (with the ''Libera nos)'' appears in a list he gives of the elements of the canon, Dom Fernand wrote: ‘The word "Canon," ''Canon Missae''" in our Missal, is the title of all the prayers which follow the "Sanctus." No other indication is furnished in the Missal to show where the "Canon" ends, and it would seem to continue till the Last Gospel inclusively. But according to a text of St. Gregory which we shall quote in connection with the "Pater," and also in accordance with other witnesses, '''the "Canon" really ends with the solemn doxology which precedes the "Pater,"''' or at the "Fraction"’ (Chapter 5). And a few paragraphs later, ‘The "Canon" corresponds with the most ancient of the Eucharistic prayers as this is described by St. Justin in the second century or at the beginning of the third by St. Hippolytus. It is a prayer with a single inspiration beginning with the "Dominus vobiscum "or "Sursum corda" of the "Preface," continuing with the recital of the Institution, and '''ending after a doxology with the "Amen" of the faithful. These are the true limits of the "Canon,"''' they are at least the most ancient.’ In short, both the SVTQ author and Dom Fernand are both in agreement with the standard usage of liturgical scholars, namely, that the canon ends with the doxology and the great Amen. I'm simply trying here to prevent further misinformation from creeping into the article. The gratuitous and false comments about this poster and the SVTQ author's liturgical knowledge should have no place on this page. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 00:49, August 6, 2008 (UTC)
