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Since it is generally acknowledged by scholars that the Sarum Use dates to the 13th c., it doesn't qualify for the description "pre-Schism." Also, I don't believe anyone has claimed that Moscow evaluated the Sarum. I take the claim to be simply that the Russian editor(s) of the Sarum utilized the ''Observations'' of the 1904 Moscow commission to amend the text to make it more suitable for Orthodox use. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 02:06, August 29, 2008 (UTC)
 
==Sarum: 13th Century or Misnomer?==
 
I don't think the argument can be made that the use itself dates back to the 13th century. Perhaps its fixation as calling it "Sarum" can be traced to Richard Le Poore, but the codification of the texts by Osmund was in the late 11th, and based on practices well-established in the surrounding areas. However, even these local variants were far from massive differences in ritual. Perhaps a better name is simply: the English Liturgy.
 
This reminds me very much of the argument that the Mozarabic liturgy is so called because it has been influenced by Islam. Musically, it was influenced somewhat (and far less than assumed); but the texts were Hispania's use well before the Moors took over. --[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 02:52, August 29, 2008 (UTC)
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