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: Hi! Thanks for all your work. The wiki was long overdue for an upgrade (c.f. [[OrthodoxWiki:News|news]] )... I tried first running 1.27, and then 1.26. Turns out that hitcounters were [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120216 removed]] from core in MW 1.26, so I've moved the site back to 1.25 and added the [[mw:Extension:HitCounters|HitCounter extension]], so we should be ok moving forward. Let me see what I hope can do about recovering those edits. (It was a question of reverting before many edits were made or losing the hitcounter history, going back to 2004...) — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 18:10, May 11, 2016 (UTC) — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 18:10, May 11, 2016 (UTC): ...and please do let me know if you donsee any other issues.::No problem! :) I't mind, Fatherm just kind of noticing the differences. I got a whole bunch of server errors for a couple minutes there, but I passed 'm sure that was from the link upgrade (I don't get them anymore either). I am determined to OrthodoxWiki along get the counter on the front page to some of my seminarian friends 4900 (and a few others. hopefully beyond that!):::How does [[Bulgarian_Eastern_Orthodox_Diocese_of_the_USA,_Canada_and_Australia|this]] look?::::Awesome! Thank you! :) God willing[[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 20:26, May 11, there will be a few more contributors soon.2016 (UTC)

That's great newsHello Father John,I have created a page on the Nuns of Shamordino of Solovki Prison and Vorkuta Gulag. Thanks again for your contributions! I'm happy also would like to have someone onboard who has experience with WikiPediasubmit it for publication. How can I hope you don't mind do that I've bumped you up to sysop status.[[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]]once the page has been created in Sandbox?

Thanks! Now I have to figure out what to do with that. [[User:Relic67|Relic67]] ([[User talk:Relic67|talk]]) 18:14, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

: Sorry, Father! I had forgotten to leave my contact details using the four tildes. Hope you can answer my question now. Thank you. [[User:ASDamickRelic67|Rdr. AndrewRelic67]] ([[User talk:Relic67|talk]] 21) 18:5925, August 13, 21 Dec 2004 2016 (CSTUTC)

== Style Guide Ro.OrthodoxWiki.org ==

FatherThank you very much! I requested only "administrator" permissions, but I've started a tentative '''see that I got more than I asked for. I hope not to disappoint anyone. God help us! --[[OrthodoxWikiUser:Style GuideSîmbotin|Sîmbotin]]''' 05:32, November 10, 2016 (UTC)::Thanks for your work Sîmbotin. Actually, you were made a "bureaucrat" which is a funny name, but allows you to govern the writings of articlesadministrate users, especially naming conventionsparticularly on RO. Perhaps it could somehow eventually be linked to the top of the page when editing is being doneGod bless, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index. php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 09:19, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

RE: That's great. Fr John, I noticed you linked to the NPOV page on Wikipedia from your User page there. I think we should also have an explicit statement about this here -- basically I mean that on issues where substantial disagreements exist within or among the Orthodox churches we should adopt left a description tone here -- giving reasons for different positions, citing notable figures on different sides, etc. Do you have some idea lengthy question about how this should be written up? Also, what do you think would be the most effective content for the front page? Thanks again for your work! I'm thrilled that things are moving contraception and shaking here :-). [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] 14:42, 22 Dec 2004 (CST)  It's an interesting and somewhat difficult question. On the one hand, we'd probably want to keep things as "neutral" as possible, especially regarding disputes within and involving the Church. However, on the other hand, I think it may be wise to include something Theology of what one might refer to as a "Mainstream Chalcedonian bias" in the project.  That is, especially WRT naming things, I'd prefer if we named an article '''Church of Alexandria''' to refer to that patriarchate in communion with your and my bishops, and '''Church of Alexandria (Coptic)''' to refer to the Non-Chalcedonian one, rather than '''Church of Alexandria (Melkite)''' and '''Church of Alexandria''', respectively. Further, instead of '''Church of Greece (State Church)''' (as it might be called by the "True Orthodox"), we'd just use '''Church of Greece'''. A lot of these adjectival distinctives are already in use by the groups in question, anyhow (e.g., the Coptic Patriarchate refers to itself as "Coptic Orthodox.")  Additionally, when describing things, while not saying, "So-and-so's church is one of heretics and schismatics," we probably also would not say, "The majority Church of Greece has fallen away from the true faith, which subsists only in the Old Calendarist movement."  Thus, at least as far as naming and some other things are concerned, there would be a certain bias in favor of the mainstream of Chalcedonian Orthodoxy. But why? I think the possibility for confusion is ''massive'' if we don't explicitly set the bias in some way. Additionally, without it, I think we run the risk of drawing ourselves deeply into the controversies themselves. That is, there is going to be ''some'' bias, no matter what we do. As such, since the site is run by an OCA priest (yourself), and also because in terms of the rest of the world, the mainstream Chalcedonian position is what is most well-known (thus lending support to the bias in what might be called "definitional usage" terms), I think it's probably wisest to put this sort of bias in place. That being said, making the bias explicit in the Style Guide would be a must, trying to explain it in as neutral terms as possible, mentioning the reasons and that it is in no way meant as a judgment on dissenting groups or persons. That way, perhaps we could attract as contributors some of the more thoughtful participants in these debates while leaving behind their more shrill brethren. But all this is subject to your approval and revision. Regarding the front page, I think we should move the list of things in development elsewhere, perhaps just giving links to major categories of topics. Perhaps a photo or two, especially maybe an automatically rotating one (I have no idea how one would do that). I've noticed that websites with continually changing things on the front page tend to have more frequent visitors, and of course more frequent visitors mean more contributors. One thing I'd like to develop would be Body over at least a bare-bones fixed-feast liturgical calendar, with entries titled things like '''[[November 1]]''' having links to the saints Talk:Birth Control and feasts of the day. Then there also might be a calendar page with links to all the dates.  [[User:ASDamick|Rdr. AndrewContraception#The_Theology_of_the_Body]] 09:26, 23 Dec 2004 (CST) === In Reply ===Greetings again! I think those are good ideas. I agree about the "mainstream Chalcedonian bias" made (gently) explicit. It would be great if you could just revise 've benefited from what you said, add some general stuff about NPOV and stick it have contributed in an appropriately titled style page.  About images, I think that's a good idea too -- easy to implement, providing we find some appropriate onestalk section. The liturgical calendar shouldn't be impossible. At www.OrthodoxWeb.org and other places, there already exists php code to integrate a site in with the calendar on www.oca.org. The challenge would be rightly fitting it into the MediaWiki template (I don't think you can put PHP code right into an edited page, right?). I don't have much PHP experience, but I don't think it would be too hard for someone who does. Also, Huw Raphael (www.doxos.org) sent me the code he uses for this purpose. Thanks!![[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] 12:24, 23 Dec 2004 (CST) ====One more==== Father, I've further expanded the [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual]] if you'd care to take a look.--[[User:ASDamick|Rdr. Andrew]] == Images == Fr. John, I tried to upload an image and use it am reaching out in an article. All worked just fine until I tried good faith to use the "thumb" tag in the link. At that point, the image failed to show, and there was difficult to make out error information near the top of the page. --[[User:ASDamick|Rdr. Andrew]] ---------Hi Rdr. Andrew, Thanks again for your contributions -- Great work! About the image, I have a few ideas about what could be screwy on the server-side. Let me check into them and get back to you. Also, see what was the image called? I can see if it's been uploaded successfully.Wishing you a blessed New Year,[[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] Plearn from other people.S. Hey, actually, I see If you've uploaded lots of images that have worked fine. Is it just one you're having a problem with?  :Uploading images is no problem. My difficulty is with using the "thumb" option when incorporating the image into an article. For instanceany comments, the following does not work: ::<nowiki>[[Image:Theodora.jpg|right|thumb|The Empress St. Theodoraeither public or private, Wife of [[Justinian the Great]]; Mosaic, 6th c., Cathedral of San Vitale, Ravenna, Italy]]</nowiki> :...whereas this works fine: ::<nowiki>[[Image:Theodora.jpg|right|frame|The Empress St. Theodora, Wife of [[Justinian the Great]]; Mosaic, 6th c., Cathedral of San Vitale, Ravenna, Italy]]</nowiki>  :I've noticed the same behavior with other images, too. :--[[User:ASDamick|Rdr. Andrew]] ------- Hi again, Sorry for the delay. I found out the problem -- When I moved the site to a new server I neglected to install ImageMagick, so the thumbnail function just plain wouldn't function. Anyway, it should they would be fine now, but let me know if I need to tweak it anymore. Once again I'll say it -- thanks for your work! [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] 23:16, 2 Jan 2005 (CST) : It seems to work just fine now -- thanks! --[[User:ASDamick|Rdr. Andrew]] == News page? == Father, what would you think about having an [[OrthodoxWiki:News]] page (protected so that only sysops may add to it)? We could use it to make announcements about major updates and changes, with the newest news at the top, perhaps including a permanent link to [[Special:Newpages]].--[[User:ASDamick|Rdr. Andrew]] Sounds like a great idea! What do you think we should do with the Community Portal Current Events pages in the sidebar? We also need to do something about the "help" page in the sidebarvery welcome.[[User:FrJohn]] 15:42, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)