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Doesn't the Greek "All-Holy" correspond to the Hebrew "holy of holies"? AFAIK, both denote superlative degrees, so they both mean basically "most holy". In Mary, just as behind the curtain in the temple, God and man meet. At the Crucifixion, the temple curtain was torn open, and the holy of holies was no longer "separated out" (i.e. holy) from the rest of the world.
--[[User:Gus3|Gus3]] 05:45, April 11, 2008 (UTC)
 
: There is not a direct translational correspondence. In Greek, ''panagia'' is "all-holy," while ''hyperagia'' is "most-holy." I don't have my lexicon and Greek Bible on hand, but "holy of holies" would be something else. There is, of course, a poetic and typological correspondence, though these terms may also refer to God Himself, for instance, or to parts of the church building.
 
: In any event, there is not an ''allegorical'' correspondence, so that we may take what happens to one side of the metaphorical equation and apply it to all others. Though we in some sense regard the Theotokos as the "Holy of Holies" as in the Temple, there is no equivalent in her of the tearing of the veil or the eventual departure of God's presence from the Temple and its destruction by the Romans.
 
: With regard to the Temple in Jerusalem, the tearing of the veil is traditionally interpreted not as a "de-sanctification" of the Holy of Holies, but rather as an indication that God has ''come out'' to His people, which we see re-presented most clearly when the Chalice containing the Body and Blood of Christ comes out of the new Holy of Holies in an Orthodox church so that the people may commune directly with God. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 11:18, April 11, 2008 (UTC)
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