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This is a widely held belief among those under the thumb of Archbishop Stylianos, including the two Romanian parishes who look to him for protection.
The belief was actively promoted collusively by the Imperial Ethnarch Exarch of the Patriarch in Turkey and by Dr Popescu.
The only meeting of SCCOCA attended by Metropolitan Archbishop Paul ended quite rapidly in a screaming session when Met Abp Paul declined to discuss the matter of the allegedly schismatic community and the allegedly defrocked priest. This so strongly displeased one of the key players that he vigorously insisted the Met Abp discuss the matter and kick out the allegedly defrocked priest. Met Abp Paul again said it was not a matter for discussion at SCCOCA, or indeed at any inter-jurisdictional forum. The other antagonistic key player said this was precisely the right forum to discuss it and arrive at a satisfactory conclusion.
The other key player has happily involved himself in the spread of these untruths, to such an extent that when Antiochian Orthodox laity go to Greek Orthodox confessors, they are often counselled to leave the Antiochian jurisdiction "because it accepts schismatic defrocked priests from other jurisdictions and so is not truely Orthodox". They are being counselled to join the Greek jurisdiction.
So far the Antiochian authorities have shown forebearance and have not involved their laity in the contretemps. However, if the clergy in Australian of the Ecumenical Patriarchate continue to undermine the Church of Antioch through the confessional, then their grossly unChristian behaviour is unlikely to go unchallenged for much longer.
Apart from the lack of ethics in trying to poach Orthodox from another jurisdiction, there is also the guile and continual deception over this issue, especially when the Romanian authorities gave a clear and unequivocal answer to the first key player that he was inaccurate in his assertions, and wrong in his requests for canonical censure of the relevant priest.
Although the source is uncited, it so completely matches what has been so widely said in Greek clerical circles in Australia for so many years, that it should remain on the website.
There have been no further meetings of SCCOCA since the last debacle.
It is another complete falsehood to suggest Met Abp Paul and Antioch have been kicked out of SCCOCA. Although the Ecumenical Despota in Asutralia Australia would like to see Antioch kicked out of Australia in much the same way he managed to get Jerusalem kicked out of Australia, this is quite unlikely.
Antioch believes the future for Orthodox Australia is a single jurisdiction. But under the current dictatorial leadership of one of the largest of the jurisdictions this is an obvious impossibility. Antioch will remain in Australia until a single loving co-operative jurisdiction is achieved.
:On other notes - Jerusalem's little foray into Australia was quite different, and was (from my understanding) based on causing schism in an archdiocese - not unlike Jerusalem's foray into America regarding the Antiochian Archdiocese there. And while it's not my business - nor my direct problem - it may be less than beneficial to refer to the current Archbishop of the numerically largest archdiocese as 'imperial ethnarch'. *shrug* my opinion, anyway. --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 03:23, April 26, 2006 (CDT)
Some suggest Jerusalem in North America Australia was never opposed by Antiochian North Americaattempting to heal the schism and bring the lost sheep into the fold. Unfortunately the shepherd representing the Patriarchate in Turkey refused to allow the stray sheep into the fold unless they let him fleece them.
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:Unpublished theses are suitable to be cited in university assignments, so I don't see any reason to not use them here. The article only says that they chose to leave, without supplying a reason (which accords with what I've heard, ie that it was in response to the ecumenical movement, but without stating that, because of lack of citation) - that would change if a reason could be cited, though. --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 19:55, April 28, 2006 (CDT)
