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Also, what is the [[Eastern Hierarchs]] organisation alluded to in the article? Haven't heard of them. Are they a pseudo-SCCOCA group, or any eastern tradition (eg. Uniates and Oriental Orthodox)? Also, I tried to make the History sections link better; perhaps more can be fleshed out later. Thanks, {{User:Pistevo/sig}} 04:42, March 9, 2006 (CST)
 
Dear Pistevo
 
I'm sorry. I would like to change the parish listings to reflect whatever you like. However, I do believe that some of the parish listings do state some of this or something similar.
 
Also, just because a parish listing does not state it, does not mean it isn't happening. Because of the promotion of both ethno-phyletism and ethno-exclusivity, at the same time, by one particular source in Australia, the Antiochian Orthodox Church is particularly careful not to expose its newly joining parishes and missions to the usual polemical invective many have suffered from that source over the last 30 years.
 
Part of the problem is that the priests using these languages do so when needed, and in differing parishes. For instance, Father John Vesic may serve in Serbian when he is attending Serbian churches, or when conducting weddings of Serbian-origin couples who request it.
 
Russian and Greek are used at the Bankstown church I serve at, plus Belarus is also used at that church on appropriate occasions.
 
Because of the sensitivity some parishes feel towards the exceedingly negative comments made about them, for not using the "sacred language" exclusively, they may not want their use of other languages advertised under their particular parish listings.
 
The archdiocese, qua archdiocese, however, does want it known that it promotes the use of other liturgical languages as the need arises.
 
If people are going to use this compliance with the Evangelical Commandment against the Antiochian Orthodox, it is better for it to be dealt with at an archdiocesan level, than at a parish level.
 
You edited out our previous comments about SCCOCA and the reason why it does not work. The only relevant jurisdiction which does not belong to Eastern Hierarchs is the one that caused SCCOCA to fail in the first place, and probably condemned it to ineptitude from the start. Suggesting that Eastern Hierarchs, who are all about working together, and are not about regular dictatorial haranguings, is a pseudo-something, sounds rather like something being spewed about by some Imperial Ethnarch.
 
Eastern Hierarchs is about the Orthodox working together. They are not there for the self-aggrandisement of some wannabe Federal Minister for Deportations. Their presence is relatively quiet, because they are about being effective, not about being seen in the newspapers.
 
True Orthodoxy can be skewed by listening to one source alone.
 
Whether Eastern Hierarchs want a listing in OrthodoxWiki is a matter for them. At this stage they appear to want to work quietly and effectively, and without any fanfare.
 
Antiochian Orthodox Christianity is vitally interested in healing the wounds of division. The documents of Chabesy show how the Orthodox, both Byzantine and Pre-Chalcedonian, have agreed to work towards healing the wounds of division. It is a shame one jurisdiction in Australia chooses to ignore them and to ignore the rest of Orthodoxy.
 
For the clean-up of the history box and the other files, many thanks
 
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