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If you want to "talk" you can email me via this link [[Special:Emailuser/Ixthis888]].
 
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== Collapsing templates ==
 
  
I'm honestly not really sure how to make a template collapse, and I also don't know whether the right modules are installed on OrthodoxWiki in order to make that happen, either.  You may be able to find some tutorials on the MediaWiki website or perhaps Wikipedia.  If you need something installed to make it work, [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] is the only one who can do it.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:04, June 12, 2008 (UTC)
 
  
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==Note==
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Vasiliki, thank you for your kind note. I tend to be history buff - so I like to look behind the fluff of tradition (small t) get a picture of what "really" happened. Bill/Basil/Vasily. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 20:31, January 20, 2009 (UTC)
  
I honestly don't have any knowledge or experience in template programming.  If it ever looks like I've done it, it's just copied from somewhere else!  :)  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 14:12, June 16, 2008 (UTC)
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== Minor edits ==
  
: In my opinion, the master (mistress!) of categorization is [[User:Magda|Magda]].  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 23:20, June 16, 2008 (UTC)
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I've noticed you've recently made a huge number of edits all marked as "minor." Please remember that "minor" edits are things like fixing spelling, minor formatting issues, fixing links, etc.  Adding content is almost never minor. This may seem pedantic, but it's actually pretty important, since many folks filter what they see in edit histories so that they don't see minor edits.
  
== Works lists ==
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For more info, check this out:  [[w:Help:Minor edit]].  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:05, May 12, 2009 (UTC)
  
Please don't remove works lists from articles, like you did with [[John of Damascus]]. OrthodoxSource is not part of OrthodoxWiki, so there's not a problem with duplicating information like this. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:28, June 19, 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I kinda thought that but the fact that I modify every 30 seconds I thought on the other hand people would be annoyed with me if the same article came up a zillion times in the Recent Changes list ..its not a problem ..I can do it the (pedantic) way :-) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 21:47, May 12, 2009 (UTC)
  
== OSource ==
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: Well, perhaps you might also want to consider proofreading and incorporating all your intended edits before you hit "save."  :)  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:11, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
  
Forgive me, but I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of OrthodoxSource.  It's to be a repository for documents and other content (e.g., audio files, full texts of articles, etc.).  It's not for synopses of DVDs, etc. There first needs to be a proposed category structure before some of the fancy template programming that you're working on will be useful.  Gotta build the foundation before installing the satellite dish! :)
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::With all respect (and I know you are cheeky enough to get it), when people give up their personal time to contribute and help it would be nice if their was a *tiny* amount of gratitude and courtesy for their assistance rather than this continual "nit-pick" at things that really are not that important! "proof reading" is valid in context of article (agree and I should do it more often! :P) however in context of a "timeline" its too hard ... I am amazed Angellight888 does so well but he is used to that whole --- pages of text in front of his face and probably can handle it much better than me. I also have to contend with "timing out" after a certain amount of time ... and losing anything in my edit altogether ... so, fair go Father - yesterday there was no such thing as Timeline of History for Britain and today there is) so I will be more obedient to the best of my abilities!! <-- aussie slang. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:13, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
  
I honestly am having a hard time figuring out where you're going with what you're doing thereThe reason why that can be unhelpful is that it makes it hard to collaborate, which doesn't help the whole wiki enterprise.
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::: '''THANK YOU.''' There's some gratitude for you.
  
I've reverted the Main page there back to [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]]'s last version, which has a lot of good suggestions for what's appropriate there.
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::: (Now, since we're writing an encyclopedia, can we please recommence the nit-picking?)  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, May 14, 2009 (UTC)
  
I'm also adding a note here to [[OrthodoxWiki:Administrators]] to invite admins to OSource to work together on a category structure and basic presentation which would make OSource work well as a complement to OrthodoxWiki.
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:::: '''ROFL/LOL''' (NO! No nit-picking while there is an InProgress tag) besides since this site works off "charity" then each editor makes up for the weakness and deficiencies of the other (group hug) ... some of us have the time ... the others (who have the smarts) can do the vacuuming ... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:22, May 14, 2009 (UTC)
  
(This is an honest, good-faith comment. Please don't take it as an attack. It's not.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:49, June 19, 2008 (UTC)
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==Timeline in Britain==
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Hi again, I replied to your response on my talkpage; I suggest we both use the talkpage for the article itself to make it easier from now on. Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:04, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
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:Vassiliki I revised the proposed outline for the eras; please have a look on the discussion page of the article. You were absolutely correct, the titles for the eras should reflect the history of the Church as much as possible. I think I have done this successfully for the eras up to 1485 AD - (have a look). After that time it is difficult to place a name on any period of British history as it relates to the Church, so we will have to go with the secular headings I think. Again, for the 20th century, if you can determine when each of the dioceses for the various Orthodox jurisdictions were established, we could create a sub-category with those dates. I think for now, we are good to go with the suggested outline. :) [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 03:53, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
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==About Dates==
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I'm using the '''new calendar dates'''.
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This is a problem. In the site i gived to you, http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=8&month=2&trp=0 , ex: Sunday, February 8, 2009 / January 26, 2009 (Church Calendar). January 26, 2009  is the now calendar date. The second date is good. No problem, I'm nervious too, :) [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]] 12:08, May 28, 2009 (UTC). Same thing with http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=7&month=1&trp=0 . Wednesday, January 7, 2009 / December 25, 2008 (Church Calendar). Is mention the Nativity feast and the 25 dec is the new date. 7 jan is the old date.
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:BTW. Take it easy. This lists are not an easy work. There are more then 4000 names (in all centuries) out there. We should take this step by step and with a lot of calm, peacefully and love for saints. [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]]
  
::I think you think I am an idiot. I DO UNDERSTAND what OrthodoxSource is about, my inspiration has been WikiSource so your comments above about 'structure' are unfair and unfounded ...and reverting back to the old Front page is not fair since I had NOT removed any of Father John's categories. I dont wish to contribute to this site if you are constantly going to degrade me ... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:05, June 19, 2008 (UTC)
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::I do not know why you have the impresion that I am not taking it easy? Especially when I have already said that putting this together requires a lot of work? especially since its a project i started ...??????? You bruise my ego :)  [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC)
  
::: I don't think you're an idiot. You respond in this way nearly every time anyone makes a suggestion or modification to your approach. It really isn't helpfulAgain, I don't think you're an idiot, but I do think that your approach could use some refining and direction and would definitely benefit from collaboration.
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== Help Needed ...  (tables) ==
  
::: As to why I reverted the main page on OS, there was really no need to create a "Main page" template to act as a container for other templates, since (like here) the Main page itself can simply act that way.  It created an unnecessary extra layer.
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Hi Vasiliki,  
  
::: I really wish that you wouldn't respond so often as though you're being insulted and attacked.  You're really not.  We're just trying to come up with something that works and is consistent with what we've been doing.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 03:14, June 19, 2008 (UTC)
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How you doing?
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I gave it a try:
  
:::Yes, I am really upset with you today! You are the Sysop of Syops but what you do ... is that you DELETE first and talk later ... What if you deleted something good? Which you did. You deleted the entire FORMAT of the OS Main Page without any consideration for the time and effort that went into it. Another thing, just because you dont understand why I put a template inside the Main Page does not make it wrong and there could be a logical purpose for it.
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===Table 3, shrinks and columns have same widths when columns are not populated,===
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{| cellspacing="3"
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|- valign="top"
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|width="50%" class="MainPageBG" style="border: 1px solid #c6c9ff; color: #000; background-color: #F1F1F1"|
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<div style="padding: .4em .9em .9em">
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<h3>Seventeenth century (1601-1700):</h3>
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{| style="clear: both; text-align: left;" class="toccolours"
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! width="100%" bgcolor="lightsteelblue" style="padding:0 0 0 50px;" | <center>''Saints and major Orthodox personalities from the 17th-century'' 
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|<small> ''Introduction ...''</small>
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{| style="background:none;" border="1" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="font-size: 75%;" float: right; margin: 10px;" 
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! width="75px" align="center" | Year
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! width="100px" align="center" | January
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! width="100px" align="center" | February
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! width="100px" align="center" | March
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! width="100px" align="center" | April
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! width="100px" align="center" | May
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! width="100px" align="center" | June
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! width="100px" align="center" | July
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! width="100px" align="center" | August
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! width="100px" align="center" | September
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! width="100px" align="center" | October
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! width="100px" align="center" | November
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! width="100px" align="center" | December
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| align="center" style="vertical-align: top;" | '''1622'''
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| align="left" | ||  [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || - || - || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || [[December 17|17]] [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]]
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Hopes this helps - [[User:Andrew|Andy]] 16:42, May 29, 2009 (UTC)
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{| style="font-size: 100%;" |}
  
:::Second, what I am in 'the process' of setting up DOES work ...since it has been tried and tested on WikiSource! How dare you presume that the structure I am putting in place is 'against' WikiGroup principles when it is a direct "method" from the Wiki group in the first instance! Just because you cant see it coming together yet does not make it wrong ... grrr ...you really just put a WHOLE WEEKs worth of work and effort and thinking down the drain without even asking me first! "Vicki, I dont like what you are doing ...and I am going to give you 24 hours to explain before I delete it!" something like that? I mean, no one else has been in there for months ...its an invisible site at the moment ...why not let me finish what i was starting! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:34, June 19, 2008 (UTC)
 
  
== A number of remarks ==
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==Welcome back!==
 
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Hi Vasiliki, it's good to see you here again! Welcome back :) [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:55, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
Vasiliki, I have honestly come to the conclusion that you will think I am attacking you no matter what I say or do.  I'm not really sure why, and I won't speculate as to your motives, personality, etc.  I have tried very much to be patient with you and will continue to do so, but I do hope that eventually you will realize that you're not being attacked or threatened.  I'm not sure what else to do beyond that.
 
 
 
Believe me, though, that I am quite familiar with "looking at the glass" from multiple sides, and I act based on what I think works best, based on years of experience.  If I genuinely wanted simply to attack people, I could (and I would hope that [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] would nail me should I do that).  (I actually used to make something of a hobby out of it when I was in university many years ago, but I left that behind.)
 
 
 
So believe me when I tell you that when I delete or alter something without making a proposal to do so first, it's not to annoy you (that could be done much more easily); it's because I think it's patently obvious that it needed to be done, most often because (especially in your case) it either breaks with existing conventions or duplicates something that's already been done.
 
 
 
Anyway, I'm going to try to ignore the discussions about the discussion, since that doesn't seem to go much of anywhere.  Do with that what you like, but know that you can never work on anything on the wiki without any "interference."  This isn't that kind of project.  If that's what you want, then I encourage you to get your own serve and set up your own wiki that only you have access to.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 04:28, June 19, 2008 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 00:55, July 28, 2011

If you want to "talk" you can email me via this link Special:Emailuser/Ixthis888.


Note

Vasiliki, thank you for your kind note. I tend to be history buff - so I like to look behind the fluff of tradition (small t) get a picture of what "really" happened. Bill/Basil/Vasily. Wsk 20:31, January 20, 2009 (UTC)

Minor edits

I've noticed you've recently made a huge number of edits all marked as "minor." Please remember that "minor" edits are things like fixing spelling, minor formatting issues, fixing links, etc. Adding content is almost never minor. This may seem pedantic, but it's actually pretty important, since many folks filter what they see in edit histories so that they don't see minor edits.

For more info, check this out: w:Help:Minor edit. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 21:05, May 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I kinda thought that but the fact that I modify every 30 seconds I thought on the other hand people would be annoyed with me if the same article came up a zillion times in the Recent Changes list ..its not a problem ..I can do it the (pedantic) way :-) Vasiliki 21:47, May 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well, perhaps you might also want to consider proofreading and incorporating all your intended edits before you hit "save."  :) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 13:11, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
With all respect (and I know you are cheeky enough to get it), when people give up their personal time to contribute and help it would be nice if their was a *tiny* amount of gratitude and courtesy for their assistance rather than this continual "nit-pick" at things that really are not that important! "proof reading" is valid in context of article (agree and I should do it more often! :P) however in context of a "timeline" its too hard ... I am amazed Angellight888 does so well but he is used to that whole --- pages of text in front of his face and probably can handle it much better than me. I also have to contend with "timing out" after a certain amount of time ... and losing anything in my edit altogether ... so, fair go Father - yesterday there was no such thing as Timeline of History for Britain and today there is) so I will be more obedient to the best of my abilities!! <-- aussie slang. Vasiliki 23:13, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
THANK YOU. There's some gratitude for you.
(Now, since we're writing an encyclopedia, can we please recommence the nit-picking?) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 02:27, May 14, 2009 (UTC)
ROFL/LOL (NO! No nit-picking while there is an InProgress tag) besides since this site works off "charity" then each editor makes up for the weakness and deficiencies of the other (group hug) ... some of us have the time ... the others (who have the smarts) can do the vacuuming ... Vasiliki 03:22, May 14, 2009 (UTC)

Timeline in Britain

Hi again, I replied to your response on my talkpage; I suggest we both use the talkpage for the article itself to make it easier from now on. Cheers, Angellight 888 00:04, May 26, 2009 (UTC)

Vassiliki I revised the proposed outline for the eras; please have a look on the discussion page of the article. You were absolutely correct, the titles for the eras should reflect the history of the Church as much as possible. I think I have done this successfully for the eras up to 1485 AD - (have a look). After that time it is difficult to place a name on any period of British history as it relates to the Church, so we will have to go with the secular headings I think. Again, for the 20th century, if you can determine when each of the dioceses for the various Orthodox jurisdictions were established, we could create a sub-category with those dates. I think for now, we are good to go with the suggested outline. :) Angellight 888 03:53, May 26, 2009 (UTC)

About Dates

I'm using the new calendar dates. This is a problem. In the site i gived to you, http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=8&month=2&trp=0 , ex: Sunday, February 8, 2009 / January 26, 2009 (Church Calendar). January 26, 2009 is the now calendar date. The second date is good. No problem, I'm nervious too, :) Maraamu 12:08, May 28, 2009 (UTC). Same thing with http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=7&month=1&trp=0 . Wednesday, January 7, 2009 / December 25, 2008 (Church Calendar). Is mention the Nativity feast and the 25 dec is the new date. 7 jan is the old date.

BTW. Take it easy. This lists are not an easy work. There are more then 4000 names (in all centuries) out there. We should take this step by step and with a lot of calm, peacefully and love for saints. Maraamu
I do not know why you have the impresion that I am not taking it easy? Especially when I have already said that putting this together requires a lot of work? especially since its a project i started ...??????? You bruise my ego :) Vasiliki 23:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC)

Help Needed ... (tables)

Hi Vasiliki,

How you doing? I gave it a try:

Table 3, shrinks and columns have same widths when columns are not populated,

Seventeenth century (1601-1700):

Saints and major Orthodox personalities from the 17th-century
Introduction ...
Year January February March April May June July August September October November December
1622 Dionysius of Zakynthos - Dionysius of Zakynthos - - - - - Dionysius of Zakynthos - - 17 Dionysius of Zakynthos

Hopes this helps - Andy 16:42, May 29, 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hi Vasiliki, it's good to see you here again! Welcome back :) Angellight 888 00:55, July 28, 2011 (UTC)