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== Changes for the morning of May 11, 2016 ==
  
== Interwiki ==
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You're probably still working on this, but it looks like the changes I made to pages this morning were lostA couple of them were minor, but I did a significant wikification/edit of one of the pages [[Bulgarian Eastern Orthodox Diocese of the USA, Canada and Australia]].  Any chance this can be restored?  (P.SThank you for all your hard work!) [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 18:05, May 11, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Father, would it be okay to get rid of some of [[Special:Interwiki|these]]?  For instance, the [http://andstuff.org/ AndStuff] wiki is personal and closed.  For many of these, it's doubtful that we would ever link them, let alone in quantities enough to justify having an interwiki link ([http://www.linuxwiki.de/ LinuxWiki], for example).  On the other hand, it may be easier to keep them than weed them out.  Additionally, some of the interwiki links do not link to wikis, like those related to Google.  Your thoughts?  {{User:Magda/sig}} 13:06, November 21, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== Favicon License ==
 
 
 
Father, That license for the favicon was for the favicon that I created. If you read the log, I think HappyGrievling replaced it with a favicon of his version. He just didn't change the license.
 
 
 
== [[OrthodoxWiki:Buzz]] ==
 
 
 
Father, I thought you might be interested in [http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&q=orthodoxwiki this link] which I found last night. {{User:Magda/sig}} 09:23, November 24, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== Link buttons ==
 
 
 
Fr., the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/magdalainn/13560522/ first one] is link-button size, but the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/magdalainn/13445237/ second] is more banner-sized, and rather illegible when reduced to the size of the firstStill want the second?  You're welcome to both, of course.  {{User:Magda/sig}} 12:08, November 25, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== [[OrthodoxWiki:Photo galleries]] ==
 
 
 
* [[:Category:Skete Images]] - For images used by permission from Skete.com - See [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Skete.com]]
 
I have noticed that [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Skete.com]] does not include all of the images which actually use the template (cf. [[:Image:Dionysius the Areopagite.jpg]]).  Also, how do you make the category page show up as a gallery? {{User:Magda/sig}} 12:56, November 26, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== Press photos ==
 
 
 
They're probably actually more in the line of "fair use" than public domain, something like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Promotional what you find here] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Promophoto here], i.e., that the image was produced for mass distribution.  {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 14:13, November 26, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== IRC ==
 
 
 
Fr. I noticed that Dcn. Damick, Magda, and yourself are doing some serious work with images. I would jump in and help, but don't know where to start. Do you use Firefox for your browser? If so, have you looked at the ChatZilla IRC Client [[OrthodoxWiki:Chat|I wrote about]]. I think this would help everyone talk about what everyone else is doing at the moment and might help speed things along. This is the last time I will mention it for a while. I am currently logged into the #orthodoxwiki channel at irc.freenode.net using the default user name. Joe 18:09 EST 26 Nov 2005
 
 
 
==Japan==
 
 
 
Father John, I'll give it a try.  [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 17:33, November 26, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== [[OrthodoxWiki:Photo galleries]] ==
 
 
 
Father, what images do you want in [[:Category:Images of Icons|this category]]? {{User:Magda/sig}} 19:54, November 26, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
''Please import all appropriate images from a whole category at one time and then register the category on Wikimedia Commons that they were imported from here.'' — I don't think I understand this sentenceWould you please clarify? {{User:Magda/sig}} 22:06, November 26, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
Okay, so what images do you want in [[:Category:Icons|''this'' category]]Each and every icon?  Just want to make sure before going ahead.  My plan is to go through [[Special:Imagelist]] tomorrow (or later today, in my time zone) and make sure they're in the lists by subject. {{User:Magda/sig}} 23:17, November 26, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
:More specifically, do you want to add <nowiki>[[Category:Icons]]</nowiki> even to the images which are already in, say,  [[:Category:Skete Images]]?  The Skete Images category itself is in [[:Category:Icons]], but the individual images do not show up in the [[:Category:Icons]] gallery{{User:Magda/sig}} 14:30, November 27, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
How about images which are included in a permission category, but not a topical category—[[:Image:Alaska.png]], [[:Image:Alexandria logo.gif]]—would you want them to be in the ironic "Uncategorized Images" category? {{User:Magda/sig}} 16:08, November 27, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
:Any idea what to do about the two almost-identical Atalla Hanna pictures? I would prefer to delete the second, but am not sure how. {{User:Magda/sig}} 16:20, November 27, 2005 (CST)
 
:*Atallah Hanna.jpg
 
:*Atallah%20Hanna.jpg
 
:That's part of what has me confused, but there is a separate listing for each on [[Special:Imagelist]] (500, by name), and when clicking on the filename, those are kept in different directories, so it's not the exact same file: [http://www2.orthodoxwiki.org/images/e/ec/Atallah_Hanna.jpg] and [http://www2.orthodoxwiki.org/images/5/51/Atallah%2520Hanna.jpg]. {{User:Magda/sig}} 18:20, November 27, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== Vandalbot Template ==
 
 
 
We can either do that, or just check the list at the admin yahoo group by searching for ''vandal''. {{User:Magda/sig}} 20:54, November 27, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
== More image stuff ==
 
 
 
[[:Category:OrthodoxWiki Images]]—
 
It seems that some of these, such as [[:Image:Logo wikikto en.jpg]], would be better off in the [[:Category:Logos|Logos]] category.  I don't see them as OrthodoxWiki logos or even system images.  If you think they should remain in this category, perhaps you could add a clarifyer on the category page?
 
 
 
[[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]]—
 
Should we add something like: "If you have obtained this image from the internet, please include the URL in the summary." ? (Or perhaps: "If you have obtained this image from the internet, please include the URL in the summary, unless the source is evident from the image license.")
 
 
 
== Re: Copyright trouble ==
 
 
 
:Hello Father, I edit/create new entries on ''both'' sites (Wikipedia and OrthodoxWiki - see, for example, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Mina] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Mina_Monastery_in_Mariut] and compare to OrthodoxWiki), so it's the same person in most cases, though I use different usernames in Wikipedia and usually even edit without loging in at all, i.e., a different IP address will appear at different times (my IP is not static). I started editing in Wikipedia before moving to OrthodoxWiki. In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 17:31, November 28, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
::Yes, Father. St. Mina's article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Mina] is a '''complete rewrite from scratch''' by me (''cf.'' previous edits), and St. Mina Monastery article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Mina_Monastery_in_Mariut] has been '''created''' and '''fully''' written/edited by me too on both sites. In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 17:39, November 28, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
::http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nectarios (I created/edited this one too using username Kyrillos2 (to upload the image) and IP address 80.41.178.115)
 
 
 
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraam_Bishop_of_Fayoum (I created/edited this one also using username Kyrillos2 (to upload the image) and IP addresses 80.41.178.114 and 80.41.180.161)
 
 
 
::and many, many more...
 
 
 
::A general problem with wikis is the lack of explicit authorship/editorship information, and of mechanisms to ensure this is clearly present in every article. (For quality benchmarking purposes an IP or nickname cannot qualify as proper authorship/editorship information.) This is a crucial quality criterion that we teach to our students - please refer to the following presentation of mine: http://healthcybermap.org/MNKB_Quality.PDF
 
 
 
::In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 18:10, November 28, 2005 (CST)
 
(also: http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/OrthodoxWiki_talk:Copyrights )
 
 
 
:That's a nice presentation, Arbible, very clear. One clarification, though. The article in question is [[Cyril VI (Atta) of Alexandria]] (cf. [[wikipedia:Pope Cyril VI of Alexandria]]). Fr. John
 
 
 
::http://www.zeitun-eg.net/stcyril6/
 
::http://www.stmina-monastery.org/popekyrillos6.htm
 
::Arbible
 
 
 
:The WHOIS info of the above domains can be easily checked.
 
:The following resource might also be of interest, especially the sections on self-plagiarism and on proper/improper paraphrasing: http://facpub.stjohns.edu/~roigm/plagiarism/
 
:I need to go now - I will be in Thailand for the coming few days, God willing, to deliver an invited keynote speech at a conference http://www.j-geoinfo.net/HealthGIS/FISH_prog.htm , so won't be available to reply/edit. Please keep me in your prayers. In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 19:36, November 28, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
==Reply==
 
''Thanks for the links, but can you be more explicit about what you are saying they demonstrate? Thanks, [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]''
 
 
 
::Even when one is simply importing (to a different wiki)/reusing their ''own'' articles that nobody else has edited this can still sometimes be considered self-plagiarism by academic standards (also depending on the specific details of a particular import and how you approach/judge the whole matter). '''OPEN''' wiki "encyclopedias" are not academically rigorous and were never intended to be so. Nicknames are not any better than IP addresses (in this respect). One can never compare Wikipedia to Britannica, for example - see [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/27/wikipedia_britannica_and_linux/]. Please forgive me Father; you should never describe yourself as "slow sometimes". Thanks for the prayerful wishes. In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 20:30, November 28, 2005 (CST)
 
 
 
'''Food for thought:'''
 
* http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3540259953/102-7745094-9986548
 
* I have also written a bit on the wiki concept in this recent editorial of mine: http://www.ij-healthgeographics.com/content/4/1/22 (see under 'Discussion > The wikification of GIS, maps and satellite imagery/aerial photography: imaging and geospatial information for the wide masses')
 
   
 
===RE: P.S ===
 
''Did I ever mention that one day last year a woman showed up at my church - she had been Muslim by was converted by a miracle that she a her sister both witnessed together -- it was a manifestation of Pope St. Kyrillos? It was a beautiful story. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]''
 
  
::There are some volumes in English here: http://www.stmina-monastery.org/miracles.htm
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: Hi! Thanks for all your work. The wiki was long overdue for an upgrade (c.f. [[OrthodoxWiki:News|news]] )... I tried first running 1.27, and then 1.26. Turns out that hitcounters were [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120216 removed]] from core in MW 1.26, so I've moved the site back to 1.25 and added the [[mw:Extension:HitCounters|HitCounter extension]], so we should be ok moving forward. Let me see what I can do about recovering those edits. (It was a question of reverting before many edits were made or losing the hitcounter history, going back to 2004...) — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 18:10, May 11, 2016 (UTC) — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 18:10, May 11, 2016 (UTC)
:: God Bless. --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 20:30, November 28, 2005 (CST)
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: ...and please do let me know if you see any other issues.
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::No problem!  :)  I'm just kind of noticing the differences.  I got a whole bunch of server errors for a couple minutes there, but I'm sure that was from the upgrade (I don't get them anymore either). I am determined to get the counter on the front page to 4900 (and hopefully beyond that!)
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:::How does [[Bulgarian_Eastern_Orthodox_Diocese_of_the_USA,_Canada_and_Australia|this]] look?
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::::Awesome!  Thank you!  :)  [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 20:26, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

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Changes for the morning of May 11, 2016

You're probably still working on this, but it looks like the changes I made to pages this morning were lost. A couple of them were minor, but I did a significant wikification/edit of one of the pages Bulgarian Eastern Orthodox Diocese of the USA, Canada and Australia. Any chance this can be restored? (P.S. Thank you for all your hard work!) Katjuscha (talk) 18:05, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for all your work. The wiki was long overdue for an upgrade (c.f. news )... I tried first running 1.27, and then 1.26. Turns out that hitcounters were removed] from core in MW 1.26, so I've moved the site back to 1.25 and added the HitCounter extension, so we should be ok moving forward. Let me see what I can do about recovering those edits. (It was a question of reverting before many edits were made or losing the hitcounter history, going back to 2004...) — FrJohn (talk) 18:10, May 11, 2016 (UTC) — FrJohn (talk) 18:10, May 11, 2016 (UTC)
...and please do let me know if you see any other issues.
No problem!  :) I'm just kind of noticing the differences. I got a whole bunch of server errors for a couple minutes there, but I'm sure that was from the upgrade (I don't get them anymore either). I am determined to get the counter on the front page to 4900 (and hopefully beyond that!)
How does this look?
Awesome! Thank you!  :) Katjuscha (talk) 20:26, May 11, 2016 (UTC)