Talk:Western Rite Service Books

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I recently purchased a book entitled Saint Andrews Service Book from the Antiochian Church. I was under the impression that this book (which is *in* print) was the an official liturgical book. Am I wrong? Joffridus

Re: the Saint Andrew's Service Book - the text is only in use, afaik, by St. Andrew's in Eustis, FL (and possibly not even there anymore.) Whomever posted the original information was correct: I've yet to see it in use at a WRO parish, or suggested by a WRO priest. Generally, the WRO use corrected copies of Roman Catholic or Anglo-Catholic (Anglican) service books which date from the latter half of the 19th c./ first half of the 20th c. According to the AWRV Ordo (printed most years by St. Luke's Priory Press) the cutoff date is '1950' for vestments, which seems to be a general rule for service books as well. - Aristibule

If I recall correctly, the SASB contains a letter in the front from Metropolitan PHILIP sayin that it is authorized for use in the Archdiocese. If so, it isn't correct to describe The Orthodox Missal as the "only" authorized service book. --Fr Lev 09:43, March 8, 2006 (CST)

The letter in the front of SASB does not describe it as the authorized liturgies. Metropolitan PHILIP, and the Vicariate, have emphasized year after year that the Orthodox Missal contains the *only authorized texts* for the AWRV. One can find it in the minutes of the yearly meetings at the Convention, which has even been reported in the WORD magazine. I'm not AWRV, but am aware enough of the sources to know that the officials of the Vicariate (which includes Met. PHILIP) say only the Orthodox Missal is the authorized texts. Ari 11:45, March 12, 2006 (CST)

I didn't say that the SASB was described as the authorized texts, but simply as authorized to be used in the Archdiocese. My copy is packed away, but is Ari claiming that the letter does not authorize the book for use within the Archdiocese? It would be strange indeed for the Archdiocese to print a book that it did not authorize for use. --Fr Lev 13:25, March 12, 2006 (CST)


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--Rdr. Andrew 18:57, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)