Talk:Russian Orthodox Church in Exile

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Criminal allegations are libelous if they are false, and the claim that Metropolitan Vitaly was "kidnapped" has been rejected by the New York Supreme Court. I'm making appropriate corrections, but this would be something to beware of in future! --Aeturneus 05:25, March 25, 2007 (PDT)

That the court rejected the claim (citation?) does not mean that the claim was not made. I've restored the original wording. It's not libelous to report in the article that the claim was made. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 15:49, March 25, 2007 (PDT)
Fair enough, but let's at least make some mention of the fact that this has been before the courts rather than leave it implied that this accusation has never been tested. It was, extensively. I have the following citation from the judgement in mind: "The [Report of the court appointed evaluator] confirms that Metropolitan Oustinow suffers from some memory loss and becomes somewhat confused when pressed for details regarding his property and assets, but has no apparent difficulty in describing his personal history or in expressing his thoughts and feelings concerning the Church and his ideological viewpoint regarding the separation from Moscow and other matters. While reluctant to do so, he expressed his opinion that it was inappropriate for the petitioner herein to interpose himself and ask to be appointed Guardian (Report, p. 5) and volunteered that "there was a personal misunderstanding between him and Bishop Gabriel regarding the inner policy of the Church and that is why he left New York" (Report, p. 4)." (New York Supreme Court, Index No. 500180/2001, Chemodakov V. Oustinow, p. 11) --Aeturneus 16:26, March 25, 2007 (PDT)
I might add that there were at least half a dozen motions filed in Canada as well that were ultimately thrown out after two psychiatric evaluations failed to show the requisite lack of capacity on the Metropolitan's part. --Aeturneus 16:29, March 25, 2007 (PDT)
Feel free to incorporate this information into the article with the citation. The full quote is probably not necessary, as it would imbalance the article length, but a brief statement with a reference would work. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 16:40, March 25, 2007 (PDT)
Thanks, I tried, I hope it's alright now. Ah, I'll add the citation as well --Aeturneus 16:44, March 25, 2007 (PDT)