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which Metropolitan Chrysostom is this?: new section
Is it really right to classify [[ROCOR]] as "Old Calendarist"? Their separation didn't have anything to do with the calendar change, and they're apparently on the verge of reunion with Moscow, anyhow. --[[User:ASDamick|Rdr. Andrew]] 13:00, 28 Feb 2005 (CST)
I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico and I noticed an interesting looking monastery located in a house near the downtown area. I looked on the Internet and I found that they have a website. They seem to be Old Calendarists. The only information I know is what is on their website. see See http://orofineartgallerywww.kazanmonastery.com/kazan (and also) org httpTheir website says://orofineartgallery"Originally founded as a center for first generation Russian and Greek Orthodox living in the Albuquerque metro area.com/kazan/locationThese were members of the Old Calendar Church - continuing the practice of following the Julian calendar.htm " Just wondering if Would they would be included as an Old Calendarist congregation? They don't seem to be associated with the other Orthodox congregations that are in Albuquerque. Sincerely, Colleen Lowry beanlowry@hotmail.com
In the end, I am sure that people will lack the resources to stop HOCNA's attempt to control the traditional Orthodox internet. Having lived in HTM, I am aware of the access that the approved fathers have to the internet. The rest of us can answer folks, and then we go back to our jobs. Sadly, for some, this IS their job.-- [[JoeSuaiden|Joseph Suaiden]]
 
== synod of Archbishop Timotheos? ==
 
Is there any information to be had on a Greek Old Calendarist synod in Athens under an Archbishop Timotheos, and which includes a Bishop Pavlos, a Bishop Timotheos, and a Metropolitan Stephen? It doesn't seem to be included in the article. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 14:46, September 18, 2008 (UTC)
 
See the discussion on "Max Michel" above. Timotheos Athanassiou was made a "Bishop" by Joachim Souris, an individual who was made a "Bishop" through a meeting of independent Bishops, one of whom claimed to be "Archbishop of Byzantium" (Peter Zhurawetsky) and also came from the renovationist "Living Church" schism in Russia. None of these men had a following of any merit, and Bishop Souris' claim to fame seems to be that he's consecrated all of his followers Bishops.
 
[http://www.google.com/search?q=Joachim+Souris&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=mozilla&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial| A cursory search through Google will show innumerable groups claiming lineage] from Joachim Souris. {{unsigned|JosephSuaiden}}
 
Apologies. I forgot.--[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 02:57, January 8, 2009 (UTC)
 
== New Can of Worms ==
 
I've removed two links because they are totally nonsensical. One is another vagante group which is not "Old Calendarist" at all, and the other is the "ROAC in America". I question whether we can include a link to a Bishop who does not have more than titular jurisdiction in America, since he would just be considered part of his parent jurisdiction. Frankly, Gregory of Colorado's and HOCNA's links to claiming jurisdiction in America are also laughable, so I don't see why there is a section in "America", unless we wish to include every true Orthodox Bishop in the US-- which would mean all ROCiE sections and more.
 
Actually, without deleting everyone that might be the only solution.--[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 19:05, January 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
== My Revisions are Complete ==
 
I think that's all I've got for fixes; I tried to remove bias, and add more links per my comments above, as well as address the "in resistance" issue by creating a section discussing the ecclesiology and linking to it when relevant.
 
I hope this is a general improvement.--[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 20:33, January 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Autonomous status ==
 
I deleted the HOCNA entry from the list of churches claiming autonomy, I would have cited this but I don't know where I would put the citation on a deleted entry. [http://www.homb.org/resources/docs/Not-Autocephalous-Dec-2010.pdf Here] you will find a document straight from the HOCNA website put out by two HOCNA bishops stating that HOCNA claims neither autonomy nor autocephaly
 
== Changes to Cyprian of Fili's group's description ==
The changes I made to this paragraph are because I was not aware that only groups that have made the calendar a matter of doctrine are the only people who are truly Orthodox, therefore the reference to "True Orthodox" must have been a shortening of the name of a specific Old Calendarist group. Otherwise, OrthodoxWiki would be claiming that people like me are "false Orthodox". Second, as far as I know, there is no such thing as a "New Calendarist State Church", or however it was named. I guessed that this was some sort of propaganda-style reference to the Church of Greece. [[User:Bryanjmaloney|Bryanjmaloney]] 15:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
== which Metropolitan Chrysostom is this? ==
 
"After the death of Metropolitan Chrysostom, the Florinites had no bishops, and Metropolitan Chrysostom advised his flock ...." Who is this second Metropolitan Chrysostom? --[[User:Richardson mcphillips1|Richardson mcphillips1]] 00:46, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

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