If they're more properly known as Old Ritualists, shouldn't that be the title of the page, with Old Believers getting a redirect? --magda 21:38, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)
- Well, "Old Believers" is the most usual name in English, and it's how they're listed in printed encyclopedias. "Old Ritualists" is the more literal translation of the Russian name (I believe). --Rdr. Andrew 22:02, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)
Did Patriarch Nikon cause the schism as this article suggests? Perhaps this should be discussed much more.
Metropolitan Macarius, and others point toward the state, and not the patriarch, as the main cause.
- Good suggestion. Perhaps you'd be able to incorporate this reference into our article? — edited by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 12:59, December 12, 2006 (PST)
I strongly recommend reverting this article back to its state when it more resembled its source on Wikipedia. The massive rewrite that was done is both generally unencyclopedic and severely biased. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 17:13, December 13, 2006 (PST)
Old beliver today
Old belivers have paralel hierarchy in Russia established in XIX century. I believe that sholud be aded to this article.
--Ddpbf 04:44, May 17, 2007 (PDT)
I've updated this article by replacing it with the (IMO, far superior) Wikipedia version (the source for the original version here), including various images and some editing on my part. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 05:56, July 13, 2007 (PDT)