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::: Alas, if only it were true that Australia were "unique in that not all Parishes belong to the same jurisdiction"! This problem actually exists in most of the world&mdash;all of North America, South America, Western Europe, Oceania, and most of Asia. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 16:55, February 19, 2008 (PST)
::::OK, true ...but this is not helping to move forward on the dilemma! :-) I still like a top-down approach only cause I am an engineer and we have top-down logic thinking ...for my thinking, I think it makes sence to file information > Church Group (ie Antioch, Greek etc) > Geographical > Alphanumerical. The current method on this page is a long list ...I like the innitiative as it is but I changed it yesterday to make it look simpler. Hence today's discussion. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 17:02, February 19, 2008 (PST)
 
:::::The information is still there, available by clicking on the "history" tab (to the left of the "edit" tab); you can use it to view single "snapshots" of the page for a particular edit or to see the differences in edits. Unless there's a glitch in the system, we don't have to worry about losing links. I've been working on a map for the [[List of parishes in Texas (USA)|Texas]] article. Would that be of any use here? (We'd still have to come up with something for the list, though.) —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 17:22, February 19, 2008 (PST)
 
:I did actually check the page history to try and salvage the links to 'patronals' (for lack of a better word), but there was no way to do that.
:The problem with sorting by church group is that it actually removes the justification for the articles on OW - these are (with the possible exception of the Serbian Diocese) available on the jurisdictions webpage. The point and sole justification is that these are MCB-parishes, geographically sorted, with no regard for which jurisdiction is which (so long as it's MCB, of course).
:A map could work if it was basically a map of Melbourne - Victoria is a small state with, moreso than the rest of Australia, a high ratio of capital city living.
:I do agree that it's too much under one header. East Melbourne, North Melbourne, etc., would all be good differentiations - where there's more than two churches in a city (e.g. Geelong), that's always gotten it's own header. I would do that in the area that I live, but...there's not enough churches to justify that :) &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 17:24, February 19, 2008 (PST)
::Hey, I looked at the Texas link, I didnt like the Google Map ..it made the article look messy and congested but I DID like the logical geographical sub-headings.. that certainly cleans up the list a treat. Pistevo, I can help you sort 'Victoria' into geographical zones since I am a Melbourne girl but I couldnt really assist you with other areas of Australia. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 17:42, February 19, 2008 (PST)
:::If you could do Victoria, that'd be great :D Victoria probably has the same amount of churches as New South Wales, and they're both _massive_ lists...now that the new Greek Orthodox Archdiocese website is up, I'm trying to put in the names of clergy - I think I've done the first, like, 10... &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 18:46, February 19, 2008 (PST)
::::The thing about the map is that I had to look up each address to get the coordinates. Then I put in the line (adjusted to always include the jurisdictional link) from the article's list as the caption for the coordinates. It's easier with the "List of parishes" series in the States because almost everything has a specific link, and the lines are already ready. The listings (and links) should be in before the map is attempted, IMHO. Just a note from [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] from Category talk:Parish Directory (USA)|Feb 1, 2006: "I would leave the [clergy] names off, again to reduce what could be a major effort to keep up with changing personalities and making the 'correction.' " We haven't implemented that in all the articles, but it is a pain going through and trying to update them&mdash;just something to keep in mind here. Basically, I think it would be a good idea to go to [[Category talk:Parish Directory (Australia and Oceania)]] and decide on an overall style. (Maybe even make an article for the Style Manual.) —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 19:06, February 19, 2008 (PST)
 
==Metropolitan Map of Victoria (Australia)==
For those who are interested, below is:-
#[http://www.localgovernment.vic.gov.au/web20/dvclgv.nsf/allDocs/RWP73AB08D7FACCAF58CA2571960029BB5C?OpenDocument Map and List of Victorian Municipalities];
#[http://www.land.vic.gov.au/Land/lcnlc2.nsf/93a98744f6ec41bd4a256c8e00013aa9/e297226bfdf5be7bca257155001771a7/$FILE/Guidelines_Oct2004.pdf Guidelines for Geographic Names Victoria]. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 19:57, February 20, 2008 (PST)
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