Just a note to say that I appreciate User:Sophysduckling's contribution (check history), but think it still needs work before going public. A couple notes on this: 1. I don't think we need a dictionary or Wikipedia-style definition of homosexuality here. 2. Some areas were expressed in terms of "general" feelings of Orthodox people rather than from a dogmatic perspective -- that's fine in it's own way, but the basic article should be mostly dogmatic in content. 3. Along these lines, e.g. the matter of adelphopoiese is much clearer-cut than was expressed. 4. And the issue of orientation is more complicated.
I removed rather than edited the piece because I don't have the time to write something else now and I didn't want anybody to be mislead. It's a sensitive area in many ways (though dogmatically clear), and since OrthodoxWiki is becoming a standard reference site, I think it would be good if we could start off with a more precise and expanded article. Fr. John 01:19, 20 Oct 2005 (EDT)
Under the section "Articles from an Orthodox Perspective", the first and third links link to the same article on different websites. The article is attributed to a different priest in either case. Rather than removing either of the links, I have contacted one of the priests in question as, either his article is being plagiarised or somebody else's words are being wrongly attributed to him. I thought that this course of action would be best as I don't know the true details of the situation - user Sarisburium. 15.20, 19th August, 2006. BST:
- Hi Sarisburium, thanks for your work on this. Can you be more specific about which articles you're tlaking about? The articles from Frs. Hopko and Caldaroni are different, yes? — FrJohn (talk)
The tone of the article
This is one of the articles on Orthodox Wiki that doesn't read like an encyclopedia article. The opening section has a rather "preachy" tone to it. Also, it includes the claim that "In either case, any practicing Orthodox Christian cannot at the same time be a practicing homosexual." Clearly this isn't a true statement; there are practicing homosexuals who are also practicing Orthodox Christians. The statement could give the false impression that the Orthodox Church doesn't include sinnners in its membership, or that the author thinks that practitioners of this particular sin do not or should not belong to the Orthododox Church. The statement also runs counter to the linked article by Fr Joseph Huneycutt, which refers to a gay man saying "It took the man a couple years to become Orthodox, but another 10 years to become celibate." The Church is a hospital for sinners, and we are rarely healed overnight. --Fr Lev 11:26, August 22, 2006 (CDT)