Talk:Gibran (Ramlawey) of Australia and New Zealand

episcopal rank

i've seen no evidence that +Gibran was archbishop - all documents i've seen say that he was just bishop of a diocese, and that after his repose the diocese got upgraded to archdiocese and title of bishop to metropolitan. oea 02:30, 11 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Googling for his name yields multiple sources referring to him as "archbishop" (including obituaries).[1] —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!)]] 20:20, 11 Sep 2005 (EDT)

this...is probably best described as 'frustrating' :). a bunch of external sources say 'archbishop', possibly because they are used to archbishops running the church. deanery of new zealand says 'bishop' in its obituary [2], and archdiocese of aust/nz says 'bishop' in its history of the archdiocese [3]. all that said, i'll change it only after this has been verified (either way) on an archdiocesan level. cheers, oea 01:50, 12 Sep 2005 (EDT)

I gather that means you're going to ask them? That would seem to be the best idea. —[[User:ASDamick|—Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!)]] 07:14, 12 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Rank (again) and surname

With the most recent edits by Chrisg, he's now listed as both a bishop and archbishop. That seems less than ideal. Additionally, the Anglicization of the name was changed, yet the relatively more Frankified Ramlaoui (an extremely common thing for people from Lebanon) is used in multiple sources online. Which is it? Archbishop or bishop? Rimlawi or Ramlaoui? Sources? —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 08:00, December 30, 2005 (CST)