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Antidoron & Prosphora
:Also, perhaps someone will correct me, but it seems that, however many loaves are used for antidoron in Greek practice, only one is used for the [[prothesis]] - i.e. the Lamb and the commemorations. Of course, we use five small loaves in Russian tradition, one for the Lamb, one for the Theotokos, one for the saints, one for the living, and one for the departed. What remains from all of those loaves of [[prosphora]] is used as [[antidoron]] (so there is no waste). If a bishop is serving, he may have his own loaves for the living and the departed. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
 
:: Sorry, Father, but the Byzantine practice is to use multiple loaves (at least 2) even for the proskomedia, too. :) They do all have the same seal on them, though. Whether particles are taken from all 5 or from just 2 seems to vary, though, from what I have witnessed.
 
:: My understanding of the distinction between antidoron and prosphora is the same as yours, though—prosphora is the bread in general, from which the lamb and the antidoron are taken.
 
:: It's interesting the way y'all use ''prothesis'' and ''proskomedia'', though—the usage I'm familiar with is that the ''Proskomedia'' is the service, whereas the ''prothesis'' is the table on which that service is performed. Hmmm... I can't wait to get my ''Blackwell's Dictionary of Eastern Christianity'' in the mail. I'll consult the ''ODCC'' when I get home, too. --10:42, 26 Jan 2005 (CST)
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