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The rank still exists in the Orthodox Church of Romania. It is a bit obtuse to say it is extinct in the Orthodox Church, even if it is extinct in the Roman Catholic Church. Chrisg 01:45, July 2, 2008 (UTC)

Acute or obtuse, we'll need a citation, since pretty much every source I've ever seen describes it as extinct. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 01:59, July 2, 2008 (UTC)