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I think it's worth leaving in the fact that Clendenin knows what he's talking about more than most of the other writers linked here. -FrJohn
I think we can both pray for persecuted Christians around the world '''and''' focus on Christology. There clearly is much to discuss, and no '''official''' proclamations regarding the Christological questions between the Chalcedonians and Non-Chalcedonians have yet been promulgated. So it's not a dead question by any means.
In any event, while I do think that putting Non-Chalcedonian polemics against Chalcedonians into this article is probably not the best thing to do (if only because it's a large enough issue to warrant separate treatment), it is worthy of mention that [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual#Neutrality and the OrthodoxWiki Bias|according to official policy]], ''Orthodox'' is defined on OrthodoxWiki as a term biased in favor of Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy. While Non-Chalcedonian material is welcome here, it is as "guests" that such material is welcome and not as "standard." ——[[User:ASDamick|{{User<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</sig}}font>]] </sup> 18:25, 21 Oct 2005 (EDT)
::Thank you. I respect your policy. God Bless+
Just a note to say that I've removed the empty headings here. I think, as regards the non-chalcedonians, that the Christological issues are dealt with adequately elsewhere. This page was envisioned (by me at least) as dealing more with newer/modern polemics. Let me add that I am very happy to have so much Coptic/Non-Chalcedonian material on OrthodoxWiki. I think our hearts are very close. While I do not want to cover over any significant issues which yet divide us (as Rdr. Andrew and others have brought up), I hope that this website could contribute in some small way to the feelings of brotherhood and unity we do have. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
: Let me add my Amen to what Fr. John has said here. I very much respect and admire the Non-Chalcedonian churches and pray that a full unity may be achieved. ——[[User:ASDamick|{{User<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</sig}}font>]] </sup> 09:07, 22 Oct 2005 (EDT) ==Roman Catholic Critiques of the Councils== The following from the "'''[http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/ Catholic Encyclopedia]'''" : :"''This is the "Psuedosynodus Photiana" '''which the Orthodox count as the [[Eighth Ecumenical Council|Eighth General Council]]'''''". And the following from "'''[http://www.catholic.com/ Catholic Answers]'''" : :"''The Eastern Orthodox communion bases its teachings on Scripture and "the seven ecumenical councils"—I Nicaea (325), I Constantinople (381), Ephesus (431), Chalcedon (451), II Constantinople (553), III Constantinople (680), and II Nicaea (787). '''Catholics recognize these as the first seven ecumenical councils, but not the only seven'''''. :'''''While Catholics recognize an ensuing series of ecumenical councils, leading up to Vatican II, which closed in 1965, the Eastern Orthodox say there have been no ecumenical councils since 787, and no teaching after II Nicaea is accepted as of universal authority'''''. :''One of the reasons '''the Eastern Orthodox do not claim to have had any ecumenical councils since II Nicaea''' is that they have been unable to agree on which councils are ecumenical. In Orthodox circles, the test for whether a council is ecumenical is whether it is "accepted by the church" as such. But that test is unworkable: Any disputants who are unhappy with a council's result can point to their own disagreement with it as evidence that the church has not accepted it as ecumenical, and it therefore has no authority''". Maybe "''Catholic Answers's''" full name is actually "''Catholic Answers to Catholic Encyclopedia''" ... who knows! :-) P.S. : Am I being "''Anti-Catholic''" by adding this here? :-) [No ill or harm intended ... and sincerely hope none ofence taken].[[User:Luci83ro|Luci83ro]] 21:07, July 22, 2006 (CDT) ::I've heard someone (Catholic) say that the Orthodox only have seven, and haven't had one since, because ''according to Orthodox theology'' an ecumenical council cannot be held without the Pope (of Rome) present. Amazing, eh? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
http://wwwvideo.zeitun-eggoogle.netcom/members_contrib/EcumenicalPatriarchBartholomewIOnEvideoplay?docid=-OUnion.mp3292748952186052796
http://www.zeitun-egsaveethiopians.net/members_contrib/RevDrMiltonBEfthimiouOnChalcedon.mp3
