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Closing down OrthodoxSource and SR

Friends, I apologize for being absent for awhile. Please let me know if you have any outstanding wiki issues you need to resolve!
As of today, I am shutting down OrthodoxSource. Apologies to IXThis888, who has put in a good deal of work. However, there was not enough of a community of contibutors and moderators there, and I think it would be better for us all at this point to keep the focus on this wiki. Also, I will likely be shutting down SR soon. There has been no activity there for a long time, and I'm afraid that the required documents (about copyrights and policies) were never translated. — FrJohn (talk) 12:45, November 25, 2008 (UTC)


hi, i have photos of the raifa monastary i would like to upload as well as a convent neasr yoshkar ola russia which i do not beleive yet has an article how would i create a new article for this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kharaku (talkcontribs) .

Hello, on the left hand side of your screen ... scroll down until you see the words

"upload file" .. then follow the steps ...its not too hard and always someone will help you categorise your work ... Good luck! Vasiliki 01:16, November 29, 2008 (UTC)

Adding a Photo....

I have been wanting to post my photo, but do not know HTML. Could someone please give me a tip on how to do this?

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jacifus (talkcontribs) .

Give a thorough read to the materials linked in the welcome message on your talk page. There's plenty there that should help. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 23:56, December 3, 2008 (UTC)

Seminarian input

Over at Citizendium, there is a programme whereby faculty at various universities enjoin their students to post their work. I was wondering if it would make sense here to start publishing seminarians' papers. They come with faculty oversight and would be of sufficient quality to support reliability here. Thomas Simmons 09:28, December 19, 2008 (PST)

There is also a Wiki Site called "Patristic Wiki" that you should look at. Father John set it up recently (mid-November I think) and they are asking for people to contribute in regards to patristic related stuff .... 22:47, December 18, 2008 (UTC)
1. This is not really a place for papers, but for encyclopedia articles. If seminarians wish to write Orthodox encyclopedia articles here, they are welcome to do so.
2. PatristicsWiki is not connected with OrthodoxWiki and, as far as I know, not set up by (our) Fr. John. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 01:54, December 19, 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I know that PatristicWiki is not linked with OrthodoxWiki but I mentioned it since I presume that everyone's core intention is to spread Orthodoxy in the way they know how ... who you are affiliated with wrt posting information publically is irrelevant as long as the end users are connected to God and the Truth. I had the impression (our) Father John was involved with it ... since, he monitors the emails for the Ancient Faith podcast that Dcn Matthew has been delivering - and he is from Monachos.net So doh! Vasiliki 04:03, December 19, 2008 (UTC)

ROK's Basic Teaching on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights

I learnt recently the Russian Church adopted a Basic Teaching on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights. Metropolitan Kyrill held a speech at a conference in Vienna in 2006 where he said this teaching is meaningful to all christans and at the UN Human Rights Council he said in 2008 adoption of human rights is unsuccessful because it fades out moral. I believe this is important. Would there be interest to have an article on this topic?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Haiduk (talkcontribs) .

Perhaps you should make it a "sub-topic" under the Church of Russia since it is specific to their jurisdiction? I will give it a shot first if you want and then you can come in and edit??? Remember to sign your posts with three tilde (~) signs. Vasiliki 00:45, December 19, 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad with just doing a revision. I agree adding it to Church of Russia would be adequate. It's up to you to follow Fr. Andrew advice or convince him, if that is possible Haiduk
Honestly now, with no mucking around and with respect to Father Andrew its not MY job to convince and neither do I want to convince him since I trust what he is telling me :) However, if you wish to ..since it is your own idea ...go ahead. I merely was trying to be helpful but if its not appropriate for an article I can only just go with the guy who holds the petraxili .... :) Vasiliki 14:30, December 19, 2008 (UTC)
Well, my salvation is not dependent on having such an article at OrthodoxWiki. I just wanted to ensure information about this declaration finds it's way into this community. I guess (since it is not easy to write a reasonable article on this subject) it might be better to forward it to english language blogs or forums such as monachos.net. --Haiduk 16:34, December 20, 2008 (UTC)
That's interesting, but it's really more fit for a newspaper than an encyclopedia. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 02:27, December 19, 2008 (UTC)

Orthodoxy in Italy

I think it is completely inapropriate to use the title Orthodox Church in Italy for a non official orthodox church, that exists only 17 years, when in Italy orthodoxy has a history for many centuries. As far as I can see there is an article referred to Gennadios (Zervos) of Italy and Malta (the primate of the diocese of Italy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate), but there isn't an article for his archdiocese "Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Italy". Also in the english and italian wikipedia the problem is the same. It seems as if the users who created the "Orthodox Church in Italy" articles were really quickly to catch the title! But it should remain like this? I think no. And it is, in my point of view completely unacceptable if that happens also in the "Orthodoxwiki".--Sp!ros 21:27, December 29, 2008 (UTC)