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== Holy Trinity Metafor a hello on a new page ==

HelloSo... My goal is to get to 4900 on unique articles before too long. I'd definitely eventually like to see the 4 flip to a 5... :) There's a lot of stuff out there that could be written about. Take care! [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 20:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Reading about : Sounds great, [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]]! Please note this previous discussion on [[OrthodoxWiki:Administrators#Eliminating_directory_articles|Eliminating_directory_articles]] - there is certainly room for overviews and histories, but a major problem with making a directory of parishes is that things can get out of date very quickly. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])::Understood. :) As far as the material universeBulgarian diocese page, noticed that I figured I'd just clean it up a bit since it's been sitting there are 3 infinities with some VERY old information (or mysteriespriests' names, for example) for a couple of years. As it was a priest in the diocese referenced who posted the info in the first place, I didn't necessarily want to just clear out the whole thing. Hope that define our worldreasoning makes some sense. :) [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 01:35, May 12, 2016 (UTC):::Certainly, thanks! And again, background / historical info is great. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])

Fr. John, the updates look great, thank you for the hard work! :) I may be overcomplicating here've noticed a couple of little hiccups, but it's just so poetic to notice how the science laws looks like most of them have been smoothed out (the captcha acting silly, for one). This isn't a big universe thing at all, but under "Special Pages", the "active users list" doesn't work anymore. It always shows no active users, and the small universe are in disagreement with each-other when a note that it comes 's a cached page that might be up to apply 101 days old. (This number gets bigger all the macrocosmos laws to microcosmos or time.) I think somewhere this stat must still be working, because I think on the statistics page, it does show the other way aroundactual number of active users, but when you click on that, as if God intended things it brings you to be mysterious and impenetrable for the human mindpage that shows none. Hope you are well! :) [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 13:05, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

3: Hmm... there is this bug report: https://phabricator. --- The infinite complexity of life and intelligencewikimedia. The connections in our brain are said to be more than all org/T89027. I also tried clearing caches, running the stars in the universeSpecial Pages update script... didn't work. But how can Since this complexity come to be in only 4 billon years since our Earth is said to exist. This level of organisation of matterreflected on [[Special:RecentChanges|RecentChanges]], first level: lifeI don't think it is critical, second level: intelligent life are both just unconceivable by sciencebut I am glad you pointed it out.

I want to ask you: could these 3 "infinities" be a reflection of the Holy Trinity in the material world? Or what is the theological view about those mysteries== author credits?==

== New category St. Ioann Listvinnik?==I was thinking of adding a category to be called '''"Propitiatory Offerings"''' where all of the things that are offered to God can be grouped together, inluding: [[Artoklasia]], [[Kollyva]], [[Proskomedia]], [[Molieben]], [[Incense]], [[Myrrh]], [[Votive Offerings]], and things of this nature. Propitiatory Offerings in the Old Testament consisted mainly of sacrifices; in the Orthodox Church we have this new array of elements. Any ideas or comments? Is it accurate to describe it this way? Thanks and cheers. [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 20:34, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

: Propitiation is I've been reading a problematic concept for Orthodoxy bit about historic churches in Alaska, and one I wouldn't be willing to endorse saw mentioned that in Tigalda (e.g.Tigalda Island, I would never sayperhaps), "We offer up incense as a propitiation church was consecrated in 1844, dedicated to God")St. Ioann Listvinnik. That said, though, I've never heard of these things really being grouped together Anybody know if this is correct or that it might be in traditional Orthodox writingserror? Thanks. &mdash;:) [[User:ASDamickKatjuscha|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>Katjuscha]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[Usertalk:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophyKatjuscha|THINK!talk]]''')</font></small> 1401:0513, May 19June 6, 2011 2016 (UTC)

Question:: Thanks for the clarification Father, cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 14:09, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

== Calendar Days ==Greetings. I had a look over at Wikipedia at their Orthodox "Calendar day" pagesWhen it comes to posting biographical information, should we have some sort of policy shying away from posting too much information about living people, especially Americans, due to identity theft issues? For people born between 1970-2011, and in particular from about 1987-2011, when you have some combination of family name, birthplace, and I liked how the pages were set up; instead exact date of a block paragraphbirth, with all the daily Saints blocked together as we have them hereit becomes easier to guess social security numbers, they list them especially if someone was born in a neatly ordered list (state with bullets)a smaller population. This list could even I understand that much of this information is publicly available; I just would rather not have OrthodoxWiki be arranged chronologically the "to-go" place for that particular day (i.e. with people looking to steal the oldestidentities of well-known Orthodox personalities. My general policy has been to not post exact dates of birth for people in-time Saints listed firstthis age range, being as that seems to be the least relevant item for OrthodoxWiki, and probably the most recent saint sensitive for identity theft, but then I see someone here who keeps putting that day listed last)information back up.

Here is an example from Wikipedia for *[[whttp:June 4 (Eastern Orthodox liturgics)|JUNE 4th]]//www. I would like to go into all of our Calendar Day pages for the entire year (all 365 days), and make the change form paragraph to list form, for ease of reading and better visual (and chronological) accesswashingtonpost. Would this be okay com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/ sound good 06/ any objections? (I don't mind doing the work)AR2009070602955. Cheers, html Washington Post article about guessing Social Security Numbers]*[[Userhttps:Angellight 888|Angellight 888//www.ssa.gov/employer/randomization.html The new system of assigning Social Security Numbers]] 11:52, June 4, 2011 (UTC)Social Security Administration official site

: Not sure about the SSNs, but I do think in general we should exercise some discretion in posting details about living people. Wikipedia practice can be a guide here. Obviously, things like biographies and general biographical sketches are fine, especially when this information is not controversial and someone is a public figure already. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action= Twitter feed showing drug spam =edit&section=new talk]) 17:53, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

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owiki OrthodoxWiki New articleI think that this information might be useful and interesting, but I have no idea ''where'' to add it exactly. &mdash; [[User:Luci83ro|Luci83ro]] ([[User talk:Luci83ro|talk]]) 02: Order erythromycin 500mg51, 250mg cheap - erythromycin for toothaches - erythromycin allergy bit.ly/mOYoUs22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet ReplySeptember 23, 2016 (UTC)

FYI==Two questions=='''Please advise''' I like the category navigation at the bottom of the page which shows the entire category tree.Can someone tell me how this was set up for this wiki? Also, I would be interested in writing about [[Anabaptism]] and [[Quakerism]] and see how these [[Radical Christian]] branches would be viewed by the Orthodox and how these communities have interacted in the past. I understand the point of view on this site is Orthodox and the scope is mostly about Orthodoxy--would articles like this be welcome here? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 23:24, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

:Hi Justin. I don't think there is any special plugin for the categories - this is just normal MediaWiki functionality. About the Anabaptists and Quakers, I think an article about specific history of relations, theological dialogues, etc. could be interesting. I don't think this is the place for an exhaustive treatment of AnabaptistQuaker theology - hope that makes sense. — [[User:JonathansCornerComFrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 01:23, October 3, 2016 (UTC)::'''Theological discussions''' It does and that's consistent with what I thought was the case. I know that some Anabaptists traded letters with Eastern Christians during the Radical Reformation when they were being persecuted unto death by Catholics and Protestants. I'm not sure how many sources there are on this but I'd like to know. Furthermore, I'd be interested in seeing what some Orthodox perspectives would be on these groups. Thanks--I will try to get together the sources sometime to draft up an article. If anyone else has feedback, please let me know. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|JonathansCornerComM]] 1201:1139, August 17October 3, 2011 2016 (UTC)

: It:: I's been fixed. &mdash;d be interested to learn more about these dialogues — [[User:ASDamickFrJohn|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman"b>Fr. AndrewFrJohn</fontb>]] ^{[([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ASDamick|<font colorFrJohn&action=edit&section="red">new talk<])::::'''Dialogues''' This is very non-academic but it's where I first heard about these exchanges: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3gmiay/how_do_catholic_and_orthodox_users_here_view_the/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1itf5x/to_nonprotestants_what_should_the_reformers_have/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1tx8r2/how_do_eastern_orthodox_view_protestants/font>and then did some Internet searches. It would be nice if I could get something more substantial. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]} <small>·[[Special:Contributions/ASDamickKoavf|<font color="black">contribs</font>C]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''·[[UserSpecial:ASDamickEmailuser/Wiki-philosophyKoavf|THINK!M]]''')</font></small> 1805:2027, August 17October 3, 2011 2016 (UTC)

== ru.orthodoxwiki closure ==I decided to discuss the matter of the closure of the russian languge edition of the orthodoxwiki because of enduring lack of activity. Precisely, there is no activity at all. I have wrote to Main page talk about that, but recived no answers see [[:ru:Обсуждение:Заглавная страница]]. I want to note that for almost 12 years of existence of ru.orthodoxwiki.org I was the first who left a message at that talk page. The project is completely dead, and no reason to expect its revival. To make sure of this you can take a look at the list of [https://ru.orthodoxwiki.org/Служебная:Новые_страницы most recently created articles]. At the same time, Easern Orthodox subjects are successfully developing in the Russian Wikipedia and the Free Orthodox Encyclopaedia "Drevo" (http://drevo-info.ru). A few existing ru.orthodoxwiki articles can be transferred to "Drevo". ~ [[User:JonathansCornerComЧръный человек|JonathansCornerComЧръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 12:35, January 14, 2018 (UTC): As a point of order, I would propose that we keep the content and have a banner that says that the site can be reactivated with simple instructions on how it can be started up again (i.e. ask an admin here at the Trapeza). -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 19:57, January 14, 2018 (UTC):: There is no reason to protect ru.orthodoxwiki from editing beacause no one else wanted to edit it. ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 22:4111, January 14, 2018 (UTC)::: Thanks for bringing this up. I'm fine with deletion, as long as we can be assured that no significant contributions will be lost. There are 412 content pages listed at [[ru:Служебная:Статистика]]. I am fine with moving things to [http://drevo-info.ru/ Drevo-info.ru] IF their license is compatible. (I did not find licensing information there.) Otherwise or additionally [https://ru.wikipedia.org ru.wikipedia.org]. You can see what we have done with Archived Localizations at [[OrthodoxWiki:Localization#Archived_Localizations]]. What do you recommend? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 19:54, January 27, 2018 (UTC):::: About 10 years ago the articles from OrthodoxWiki were often translated into "Drevo" from english language. And then the rules become more stringent and it was not recommended to link to Wikipedia and Wikidedia-like projects. The Drevo use is's content for non-commercial purposes. In this way, the Drevo articles copied to Wikipedia violates the copyrights. ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 11:26, January 29, 2018 (UTC):::: Of course, I wanted to move the articles first, and then delete ru.orthodoxwiki. But first I wanted to hear an answer. Now I have heard it. ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 14:57, January 29, 2018 (UTC)::::: Thank you for taking care of this. The licensing is a little tricky, since both the GFDL and the CC-BY-SA licenses do not allow republishing of derivative work under a more restrictive license. My recommendation, if the people at Drevo will allow it, is to move all articles there and include a note about source and licensing. All authors should be given appropriate credit. A workaround is if the authors of an article agree to re-license their work under Drevo's terms. For example, if you are the author of the whole of an article (or the article was taken fully from Drevo) there is no issue at all moving it there. I have no idea how Copyright law is structured or enforced in Russia. As you know, the GFDL and CC-BY-SA licenses do not prohibit for-profit use—however any for-profit use is seriously compromised by the "viral" nature of these open source licenses (since any derivative work must likewise be open sourced). In any case, please let me know when content has been moved and I will go ahead and remove the RU wiki. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 21:14, August 17January 30, 2011 2018 (UTC)

== List of EnlighternersIf I was to work on a prayer book comparison, what prayer /Illuminators/Equals-to-the-Apostles attributes should I include? ==

I realize that the purpose 'm thinking of the wiki structure is to allow anyone to edit. I hope OW will forgive my impertinence in merely suggesting (as opposed to creating myself) that it would be useful to have working on a list (or lists) corresponding to the different saint titles at [[ illuminator ]]more comprehensive and sortable Prayer Book guide. I've thought As part of this because an LDS poster on a message board I frequent challenged non-LDS 'd write to name five of our own missionaries "whose exploits rival that all of the LDS missionary work.": I think the OW category 'Missionaries' covers this with an extensive list. An article over a list of missionaries would be rather long! [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 01:22, September 18, 2011 (UTC): Thanks authors/publishers and ask for the response WSK! I'm not seeing the category for 'Missionaries'...what am I missing? [[User:Jkotinek|Jkotinek]] 19:57, September 19, 2011 (UTC): NM. Found it. = ) [[User:Jkotinek|Jkotinek]] 20:00, September 19, 2011 (UTC) == Confesion == Where may I find info abour Confession? I did permission to post a search for that subject & coldn't fnd it. After a long absence from Church, select full prayer or two; if I returned in February 2012. I've had four o five cnfessions snce then. Every tme I try to confessgot no response, if I'm often fogettng sins. Dad told me it's okay able to say "I can't recall others, but I read that it's not okMay 12, 2012Brooklyn, NYThank you Irene Nikolsky :: I think it's good to talk with get ahold of a priestcopy, but also you might find some helpful resources at http://stspress.com/ or http://svspress.com - — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 16:34, May 12, 2012 (HST) == Basic Information == Is there a website that helps people and/or teenagers network with basic Q&As about our religion? I have teen sonothers, who was baptized Orthodox. Because my church is in Russian he doesn't want to go. I thought if I could find basic info for him, then he'd believe me that there are English speaking Eastern Orthodox members.Thank you,Irene NikolskyBroolyn, NY :: Greetings Irene. Of course, there are A LOT investigate how much of English-speaking (and non-Russian) Orthodox people -- For Q+A, you might try http://orthodoxanswers.org/ -- — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) == Orthodox wiki stats == Is there a way to look at statistics book one can include under fair use for various pages by day, week, monthreview purposes. So I'm wondering if people like this idea, and year? --[[User:Kalvesmaki|Kalvesmaki]] 16:03, May 17, 2012 if so if there are any strong feelings regarding what prayer or prayer(HSTs) ==Diocese evolution in North America==One aspect that I have had in preparing my contributions to Orthodoxwiki concerns an accurate presentation of the ecclesiastical structure of the Orthodox in North Americainclude. While sources concerning the earliest century, notably in the OCA 1975 publication, give a fairly clear picture of the founding of dioceses and vicariates, the last century My initial thought is blurred.  Various sources seem to present a good picture of the history of the structure of the Greek and Antiochian diocese, but the picture within the Russian based organizations gets blurred as the twentieth century progressed. The history of the Russian mission prayer usually attributed to North America seems clear to the first decade of the twentieth century when the Vicariates of Alaska and Brooklyn were formedSt. As hierarchs were installed with sees named Canada, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Winnipeg, Montreal, San Francisco, Detroit, Boston, and others through Macarius the time of the Metropolia, apparently as Vicariates of the North American Diocese Great that commonly was called the Metropolia. The formation of any of these Vicariates as Dioceses came apparently only after the granting of autocephaly to the the "Metropolia" andincludes a line, thus, bishops of these sees prior to 1970 were apparently "titular/vicar/assistant bishops, not diocesan bishops. A question in my mind is, were depending on the bishops of the "ethnic dioceses" vicars or ruling bishops? The picture for bishops and dioceses of ROCOR in North America is less clear as to when the "titular" sees ceased being "titular" and may have become real dioceses.  Recent updates to articles about North American dioceses makes necessary a clear understanding of the evolution of the North American ecclesiastical structure so that Orthodoxwiki articles don't imply existence of dioceses before they came into existence.  The above is my assumption of the history of the development of the dioceses in North America. Sources/references and text within articles that clarifies the evolution of the North American structure are needed to assure accuracy in the articles. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 05:07translation, September 12, 2012 (HST) == GOARCH link URLs format == One thing Ilike 'm constantly running into (and correcting as I go along) is the format of URLs leading to GOARCH's Online Chapel Saints pages being out of date (and leading to the "that page doesn't exist" message). They have changed formats at least once (maybe twice based on what I've seen here), and unfortunately, they haven't set any redirects, whether programmatically or via HTTP 301. (I've thought about contacting them about it, but haven't gotten up the nerve Be merciful to do so)  Example:* (oldme, broken way): http://goarch.org/en/chapel/saints/1180* (current way): http://goarch.org/chapel/saints_view?contentid=1180 I've pondered a bit about what should be done here. Obviously, one thing -- which I'm already doing -- is making the necessary correction every time I see one on a page. However, that's just a few out sinner devoid of the potentially ''hundreds'' of outdated links there could beany good deeds. Something else could be developing a bot that would search all pages and update the links automatically. I don"'t know ''how'' to do that, but I know or ''what'' they'd need to do. Anyways, I just wanted to bring it to everyone's (in particular the sysops') attention, as this is (warning: assumptions lie ahead) a widespread problem, and a potential hindrance from people getting the proper information (i.e. not knowing how to get to the right URL, or just giving up and saying "oh wellGod, another bad link"). It may seem like cleanse me a small thingsinner, but it definitely means a lot to me, as I would hate for people to not be able to easily get to the information they need. If I can help, other than my edit-one-when-I-see-it method, just let me know. [[User:Paharwell|Phil Harwell (paharwell)]] 08:36, December 11, 2012 (HST) == Canonicity of Revelation == 27 January 2013 I am in research on a book dealing with the issues surrounding the acceptance of the book of Revelation into the New Testament. (Definitely not an exegetical commentary – there are many hundreds of them already!) I would appreciate some advice on a specific area of research that is giving me difficulty: the history of Revelation’s acceptance in the Eastern church in the 2nd through 5th centuries, and perhaps later.In publications I have found so far, there is sometimes a distinction drawn between the acceptance of Revelation never done anything ultimately good in early Western vs Eastern Christianity: acceptance was much more rapid and widespread in the WestYour sight. I have yet to find, however, much insight into why acceptance was slower in the East. What was the nature of the misgivings that the fathers of the Eastern church evidently had? Who, by name, expressed those misgivings? When, how, "'' Thanks and under what circumstances? What finally prompted the Eastern Christian churches to accept Revelation? Did they do so gladly or grudgingly? How do Orthodox Christians tend to see Revelation today? Is it often preached? Were there other issues or background that I seem not thanks to have contemplated? Can you recommend books or articles that address these matters? To hit only some highlights, these are factors that perturbed the acceptance of Revelation in the Western church; perhaps they were voiced in the Eastern church as well: • Questions of apostolicity.  o Revelation was probably written about 95 A.D. The disciple John (son of Zebedee) would have been quite old at this timeadmins for my new shiny account, beyond normal life expectancy. There is reason to believe he died about 70 A.D. o The Greek language of Revelation is quite different from the Greek of the Fourth Gospel, strongly indicating they could not have been written by the same person. o John bar Zebedee was not known to have had an oversight responsibility of the seven churches to whom Revelation was addressed. • Questions of orthodoxy. o Revelation shares characteristics with many Gnostic writings, especially in its good-evil dualism and its frequent focus on secret knowledge. o Revelation speaks of the Millennium, the thousand-year period after Christ’s return when all believers live happily with Him on earth before the final confrontation with Satan. This concept is absent from the Gospels and Epistles, and it is one of the reasons that Cerinthus (active in Asia Minor at the time Revelation was written there) was declared a heretic. o It is not difficult to read in Revelation a theology of salvation by works rather than of salvation by grace through faith in Christ. Any insights or recommendations on the Orthodox perspective on the canonicity of Revelation would be most welcome. I expect to be in research for the rest of 2013, with writing in early 2014. Thanks very much David in Lexington, VA [[User:MullerjrdDclark|MullerjrdDclark]] 13:43, January 27, 2013 (HST) :: Hi David, Unfortunately I don't have any resources in mind (you might check more general Orthodox sources on Scripture). Basically, we do accept Revelation as a canonical book, but we do not read it liturgically and so it is relatively unemphasized (but still significant!). We do not accept "millennialism" and are basically "amillennial". I wonder if anyone else knows of specific resources that might be helpful? — [[Usertalk:FrJohnDclark|<b>FrJohn</b>talk]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 2116:4338, January 31February 17, 2013 2020 (HSTUTC) == Bible Text == I was thinking what if we had the LXX bible on OrthodoxWiki: Also, so you could read the bible used by the Orthodox on as this site. forum doesn't seem to be super-[[User:ShenLazar|ShenLazar]] 02:18, August 21, 2013 (HST): Hi ShenLazaractive, and I don't think this belongs on OrthodoxWiki, although it would be a great project for another site. Various versions of the LXX (Greek, English translations, etc.) are available elsewhere. There are links at [[Septuagint]]. Difficulties of putting the text here include the question of which translation d want to use, as well as copyright restrictions on some of the better ones. A more extensive article collaborate with people with links and a good evaluation of the differences between translations could be helpful though. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 23:20, August 24, 2013 (HST) == Is Revelations 21:27 a good proof of Purgatory? == According to Revelations 21:27, "But there shall by prayer book collections who have no means enter it anything that defiles, or cause interest in getting an abomination or lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life" Q: This verse seems account here and then figuring out how to be supporting the idea of Purgatory that we must be "purified" or "cleansed" before we enter the Kingdom of God. What's the Orthodox belief/perspective of this verse? == Upcoming council =='''Ecumenical''' [http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/ukuse than less-religionthan-orthodoxycompletly-councilintuitive old-idUSBREA280T620140309 This] upcoming council has been preemptively and prematurely called ecumenical by the press. style MediaWiki discussion format, I'm interested in seeing if this wiki has info on it. I figured that an article here would probably be the best Orthodox perspective. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Specialve created a deeply unofficial mailing list at http:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 23:47, March 10, 2014 (PDT) ::No info here that I know of -- I don't think we are great at breaking newsmailman. I would just say, however, that there are two senses of ecumenical at play heremit. I believe the council may be called "ecumenical" in a soft sense, i.e. universal. But this does not automatically give it an authority equivalent to the "Ecumenical Councils" - — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn<edu/b>]] ([http:mailman/listinfo/orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) == OrthodoxWiki in Serbian == First - hello to everyone, as I am quite new here. Then... I saw that there is a designated space for this Wiki in Serbian language, but there are no articles at if y'all. I would love want to help here and I think that that would be the best way I could help, since Serbian is my native language. So, I was wondering can I start working on that and if I can, if there is anyone who (or want and can help? me to --[[User:Erin Navan|Erin Navan]] 00:38, April 15, 2014 (PDT) == Crucifixion of Christ == Hey guys, do we have an article on the crucifixion and death of Christ? The only thing I can find is Holy Week and the Exaltation of Christ. [[User:ShenLazar|ShenLazar]] 16:22, April 23, 2014 (PDT'm a SysAdmin) == Infobox for saints == Wikipedia has set up an infobox for saints where you can get details like birth, death, feast days, etc. very easily (http://en.wikipediaactual official MailMan mailing list @orthodoxwiki.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_saint). Would this be , or something that OrthdoxWiki could implement? I tried using this code herealong these lines already exists, but it doesn't seem to have whatever is needed under the hood to make it worklet me know. Thanks! [[User:Angelina123|Angelina123]] 14:24, June 9, 2014 (PDT) == St. John of Chicago == I've been doing some poking around into the history of the Orthodox Church in Chicago and the parishes Note that St. John of Chicago founded. I have a question regarding this. Fr. John spent a dozen years in the US, and it looks like he consistently spelled his last name "Kochuroff". This is how it is listed in the 1900 US census, and all the contemporaneous newspaper articles, and even his son's birth certificate. Doing ll send you an email with a Newspaper Archive, the first use that shows up as "Kochurov" is in 1994. I know this shift is due link you have to the change in Russian transliteration over the yearsfollow, but being as the "V" ending is not how he spelled his name I was wondering if we really ought so be sure to go back to that. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributionscheck your spam/Katjuscha|contribs]]) .</small> == Information on Bishop of Jerusalem ==  Hello, I am interested in finding information on John VIII (1106-1156) Bishop of Jerusalem. I wanted to know if at that time he was actually in Jerusalem or exiled in Constantinople because of the Crusaders? I have read that there was a strong relationship with the Lavra of San Savvas and the Crusaders at that time. Was wondering trash if he may have actually been there instead of Jerusalem. Thank you, Tom [[User:Tompkt|Tompkt]] 18:41, January 8, 2015 (PST) :As far as I can tell, he would have been in [[w:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Orthodox_Patriarch_of_Jerusalem#Patriarchs_of_Jerusalem_in_exile|exile]], though I couldndon't find get anything specific to him. ::"At first, the crusaders treated the native Orthodox population of Antioch and Jerusalem with a degree of toleration. Since '''Patriarch Symeon of Jerusalem had died in exile in Cyprus''', the crusaders appointed a Latin, [[w:Arnulf of Chocques|Arnold of Choques]], to the Patriarchate. When he died after a few months, his successor, [[w:Dagobert of Pisa|Daimbert of Pisa]] threw the Orthodox out of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, called the Church of the Resurrection by the Orthodox. Significantly, the Holy Fire refused to appear on Holy Saturday, 1101, until he invited the Orthodox clergy to the ceremony. As a result, he adopted a more tolerant policy toward the native Orthodox of the Holy Land where the Orthodox clergy served under the Latin Patriarch.":::''The Historic Church: An Orthodox View of Christian History'' by Archpriest John Wminute or two. Morris, [https://books.google.com/books?id=KdEgOBdJqxEC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161#v=onepage&q&f=false p. 161]:::(Emphasis mine; Patr. Symeon was a predecessor of John VIII.) ::"The Orthodox, however, also maintained a succession of '''patriarchs in exile in Cyprus and Constantinople''' (see Table 1). Only one of these, Leontius II, actually visited Jerusalem during the period of Crusader occupation..." :::''The Churches of the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem: Volume 3, the City of Jerusalem: A Corpus'' by Denys Pringle, [https://books.google.com/books?id=X0jH6VPi4-gC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3#v=onepage&q&f=false p. 3]. :I wasn't able to find very much else online, other than a reference to ''Ἡ ἔκταση τῆς ἐξουσίας ἑνὸς ὑπερόριου πατριάρχη: ὁ πατριάρχης Ἀντιοχείας στὴν Κωνσταντινούπολη τὸν 12ο αἰώνα'' , pp. 98ff. by Κ.Γ. Πιτσάκης regarding the word ὑπερόριος (in exile, as compared to titular). Hope that helps. —[[User:MagdaDclark|<b>magda</b>Dclark]] ([[User_talkUser talk:MagdaDclark|talk]]) 2217:1617, January 8February 17, 2015 2020 (PST) == Saint Menas == Hello, I have recently been reading about Saint Menas and his story of martyrdom. I was wondering if someone could expound on his history. I know that he had an important vision and suffered some horrible tortures while declaring his Christianity. I read among the tortures that he "had his tongue torn out by the roots". ''Christianity in the Land of the Pharaohs'' by Jill Kamil, p119 Also, that his father Audexios had died when he was 14 and his mother prayed for a son and her wish was granted. He seems to be a very important person who we are not informed of enough. Thank you, Tom [[User:Tompkt|Tompkt]] 08:57, January 10, 2015 (PSTUTC)