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In a monastery, a '''[[refectory|trapeza]]''' (or ''refectory''), is the dining hall where monks and pilgrims gather for food and conversation (although monks don't usually talk during meals). The OrthodoxWiki trapeza serves as the main discussion point for our website. Please feel free to join in—ask anything, suggest an idea, make a comment. We're glad to have you here.  For other, more specifically designated discussion pages, check out the [[OrthodoxWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]].  [[Category:OrthodoxWiki]]  [[bg:Project:Трапеза]]   [[el:OrthodoxWiki:Τράπεζα]]   [[ro:OrthodoxWiki:Cafenea]]
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In a monastery, a '''[[refectory|trapeza]]''' (or ''refectory''), is the dining hall where monks and pilgrims gather for food and conversation (although monks don't usually talk during meals). The OrthodoxWiki trapeza serves as the main discussion point for our website. Please feel free to join in—ask anything, suggest an idea, make a comment. We're glad to have you here.  For other, more specifically designated discussion pages, check out the [[OrthodoxWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]].   
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'''If you have questions or comments about specific articles''', please direct them to the Talk pages of those articles so that they will be seen by editors working on them.
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* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 1|Archive 1]], Feb 2005 – Dec 2005 (formerly the [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Anything_Goes&oldid=22917 Anything Goes] page)
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== Uncategorized Images ==
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== a hello on a new page ==
 
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Hello,
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I was wondering why in the uncategorized picture section of OrthodoxWiki there is pictures of the Pope? He does not relate to the studies or teaching of Orthodoxy ( At least not to my knowledge ). I know that there have been talks to try and create a greater friendship with the catholics and the Pope. But I still do not think there should be a picture of him on a Orthodox site. I am only 18 and I'm still trying to understand my religion more and I think people might get the wrong impression if they see the Pope on the OrthodoxWiki site. Am I wrong to ask this? Because on a earlier post I noticed that Dcn. Andrew said "OrthodoxWiki is dedicated to Orthodox Christianity." Thanks.
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P.S.
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This is a great website and I learn a lot from it.{{unsigned|OrlandoOrthodox}}
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Although the Orthodox and Caholic churches are not in full Communion, there is often movement,in that direction. The biggest obstacle, to that happening is, antipapal feeling, coming from the radical wing of the Orthodox Church. This has been going on for decades. It's time to come together, and love one another, for all times.{{unsigned|Deacongene}}
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== When does a hierarch begin his tenure? ==
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According to the canons of the Orthodox Church, at which point does a hierarch ascend his cathedra?  That is, if he is elected by the flock of his diocese/metropolia/autonomous Church (where such elections are provided for) is he already considered to occupy his see?  Or, will he assume his post only after his election is confirmed by the hierarchal superiors?  Or esle, will he do so only after the enthronement ceremony (where such is provided for)?  In different lists of hierarchs I have seen different dates marking the beginning of their tenure.
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I thank You for Your attention and ask, if possible, to advise Church texts to confirm this point. {{unsigned|INK}}
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== terminology ==
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The term "Oriental Orthodox" is problematic, since it seems like a euphemism designed to avoid the term "Monophysite." The word "Oriental" really means "Eastern" so the term does not really distinguish the two sides of the debate. Also, the use of the word "Orthodox" implies an acceptance of the Orthodoxy of the non-Chalcedonians, which has still not been agreed upon by a consensus within the (Chalcedonian) Orthodox Church. I know that the term "Monophysite" is considered offensive by the non-Chalcedonians. Unfortunately the term "Miaphysite," coined by some to replace it, is a neologism that just doesn't work in the original Greek (would "miagamous" do as a replacement for "monogamous"?) and, in my opinion, serves to obscure the real ground of difference that still seems to separate the two sides. Since OrthodoxWiki is supposed to have a "mainstream Chalcedonian bias," wouldn't the terms "Chalcedonian" and "non-Chalcedonian" or "anti-Chalcedonian" be more appropriate? <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Mariner|Mariner]] ([[User talk:Mariner|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mariner|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
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:Hi [[User:Mariner|Mariner]], please sign you posts with three tildes, so we can know who is talking - thanks.
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:In my understanding, the term "monophysite" is not just offensive, it's inaccurate."Anti-Chalcedonian" may be correct as a historical reference, but perhaps not as a theological descriptor. "Non-Chalcedonian" would probably be the preferred term in my mind. "Oriental Orthodox" is generally understood, and does not, I think, cause much confusion. It also seems to be the preferred self-designation of the non-Chalcedonian groups. I don't have a problem granting them that name here. I do not think we need to go heresy hunting. Let us set forth our Chalcedonian understanding of Christology. If they can accept what we mean by this (and WHOM we mean by this), I think we are well on the way towards reunion. We may grant that language issues and imperial politics had a role to play in the division.
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:If you could document statements by non-Chalcedonian bishops and theologians who would consider Chalcedonian Christology heretical, I think we'd have more to go on in our conversation (and perhaps some of the non-Chalcedonian folks would like to chime in too). — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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==Why I am Orthodox==
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I made a page when anyone can write some phrases to show why he is Orthodox (what is for he more atractive in Orthodoxy), why he haven't chosen an other belief (what aspects that he didn't like it has and it is absent in our religion), or, simply, some beautiful thought from his soul, concerning the Orthodoxy.
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The advantage of this page is that '''there is not needing to wait a special state to write an article. Becouse each of us have such thought in mind and we have only to insert them here. This requires only a few minutes''' (If we have more complex thought, we are creating our new page!)
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So, the page could become an '''ode to Orthodoxy''', poem in which anyone can contribute and find something good for his soul.
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At the end of page there are useful links that points to sites that promotes the Orthodoxy values.
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The page is named Why I am Orthodox... And not Protestant, Catholic, Budist, etc. Live Apologetics
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[[User:Mircea Romania|Mircea Romania]] 02:46, February 19, 2007 (PST)
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: That is an interesting idea, but OrthodoxWiki is an encyclopedia, and these recent new articles are not really encyclopedic.  Perhaps they might better be hosted elsewhere.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 15:36, February 19, 2007 (PST)
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::Mircea, I would recommend checking out the forums section in the [[Online Orthodox Communities]] link here and trying your idea there. Besides the fact that the aim of this site is to be an Orthodox encyclopedia, you'd probbably get a much better response at an active forum. Honestly, the same few people tend to contribute a lot of the material here. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 19:04, February 19, 2007 (PST)
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:Individual users may post things like this (within reason) on their user pages. I've moved the article there. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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== denominative aspects of Eucharist ==
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Since '''Intercommunion''' is a central--for my point of view, ''the'' central--matter in (inter-)christian dialogue--since Eucharist is the heart of Ecclesiology, of our self-awareness as members of Christ's body;
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and since this site is a place not only for Orthodoxes who live among other fellow Christians, but also for they among them who strive to understand our distinctive character,
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i think it would be of great significance if the article dedicated to Eucharist was enriched with a section where the other Christian denomination's Theology and Practice about Eucharist will be presented.
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Of course that is not possible to be in a detailed and systematic manner, but it could be, at least, focused on the rationale we Orthodox deny Intercommunion with them though we do not deny other communication-relation in love with them.
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: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]]
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== Question: Autonomous Ukrainian Orthodox Church and Alexandrian Exarchate in the USA? ==
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Does anyone have any information about an Autonomous Ukrainian jursidiction that was recognized as an exarchate of the Patriarchate of Alexandria sometime in the 1980's? Any information would be appreciated. ---Leonidas
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== Picture ==
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Could someone explain me how to post picture in article. I hope that tomorow I will have Icon of Saint Sava of Serbia. ---Ddpbf
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== A question about a prayer in the original Greek ==
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I am doing some research in Church history, investigating the validity of the technique of "historical criticism" using linguistics. :I am in the Byzantine Catholic Church. :My question involves the Stichera for the Office of Great Compline used, I believe, on December 31.  It says,  "The magi coming from the East adored God made man . . . they brought precious gifts:  the purest gold as to the Eternal King." :My question is,  Is the term "purest gold" used in the Greek?  (Some critics say this is not a term used in the earliest ages of the Church.):Thank you for your kind attention.
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[[User:MaryKNH|MaryKNH]]
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You are referring to the third apostichon of the Great Vespers for December 31: Τοῦ Κυρίου Ἰησοῦ γεννηθέντος ἐν Βηθλεὲμ τῆς Ἰουδαίας, ἓξ Ἀνατολῶν ἐλθόντες Μάγοι, προσεκύνησαν Θεὸν ἐνανθρωπήσαντα καὶ τοὺς θησαυροὺς αὐτῶν προθύμως ἀνοίξαντες, δῶρα τίμια προσέφερον, δόκιμον χρυσόν, ὦς Βασιλεῖ τῶν αἰώνων, καὶ λίβανον, ὦς Θεῷ τῶν ὅλων, ὡς τριημέρω δὲ νεκρῶ, σμύρναν τῶ Ἀθανάτω, Πάντα τὰ ἔθνη, δεῦτε προσκυνήσωμεν, τῶ τεχθέντι σῶσαι τὰς ψυχὰς ἤμών.
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Your question is about the term δόκιμον χρυσόν. Your translation of "purest gold" isn't literally present in the Greek, where instead of καθαρότερον or καθαρότατον there is the positive adjective δόκιμον. Δόκιμον can be translated as "tested" or "tried" and in this context has the sense of "refined". Thus, "refined gold" is the best translation. Of course, refined gold is not that far removed from the "purest gold". Nevertheless, the English superlative adjective is not literally found in the Greek. I hope this helps.  Leonidas
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== IW ==
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Can someone of sysops look on [http://sr.orthodoxwiki.org sr.orthodoxwiki.org] and try to make interwikis to work. Also this would be nice if someone will make Special:Statistic to work. All the best --[[User:Jovanvb|Joca]] 04:01, March 27, 2007 (PDT)
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:Hi Joca, It's looking great over there already! I've fixed the interwiki links, and the error on the stats page should go away once someone actually registers a new account on that wiki - let me know if it doesn't! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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== rel="nofollow" for the links ==
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Can rel="nofollow" be removed from the <a> tags in the articles? This feature is enabled in MediaWiki by default to discourage link spam and vandalism.
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I'm not sure it would be a problem for OrthodoxWiki. Hopefully not, because it requires registration in order to edit pages, and unlike wikipedia, I haven't seen a lot of vandalism here.
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Thank you! <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Alexei Kojenov|Alexei Kojenov]] ([[User talk:Alexei Kojenov|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alexei Kojenov|contribs]]) April 12, 2007.</small>
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:I'm not sure rel=nofollow is even useful for that. What it does do is reduce Google rank. I vote for disabling rel=nofollow everywhere possible, so consider this a vote for disabling it on OrthodoxWiki. --[[User:Basil|Basil]] 09:55, April 20, 2007 (PDT)
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::Sorry for the delay on this. I agree (especially when we require login to edit), and I've disabled "nofolow" on all OrthodoxWiki sites. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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==Images from Wikimedia Commons==
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Do we have here some particular way to import images from Wikimedia Commons, or I must save first on my computer etc.? - [[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 15:56, April 19, 2007 (PDT)
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:Fr. Julian, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you here. There are some automated import tools, but they're not worth the difficulty for smaller sets of images. For more extensive imports, check out the conversation at [[osource:OrthodoxSource:Photo_galleries]] and [[osource:OrthodoxSource:Images_for_Import]]. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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== Two subjects:  Thank you, and A Correction ==
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First, Thank you OrthodoxWiki for your wonderful article on St. Constantine the Great!  I only wish you could have included the entire icon of him from the Hagia Sophia.
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Second, Thank you, Leonidas, for answering my question about a prayer in the original Greek.  However, upon further checking I am sorry to say that I inadvertently misdirected you to the Compline for December 31.  Please accept my sincere apologies for that.  The actual prayer that I am inquiring about is in the Propers for Great Compline of the Nativity of Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ, the third "Aposticha" rendered in English as: "When the Lord Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, the Magi, coming from the East, adored God made man, and unfolding their treasures, they brought precious gifts:  the purest gold as to the eternal King. . . "  My question was, "Is the term 'purest gold' found in the original Greek?"
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Thank you all, in advance, for any help you can offer.  With sincere best wishes in Christ, Mary
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I've created edittools for el.OrthodoxWiki, it might be usefull on en. or any other OrthodoxWiki. Ofcourse you can modify it accordingly in order to suit you special needs. On '''βελτίωση''' please add any template you have for article's improvement. --[[User:Kalogeropoulos|Kalogeropoulos]] 13:03, July 2, 2007 (PDT)
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:[[:el:Mediawiki:Edittools|This]] looks like it would be potentially useful.  For instance, adding Greek characters on the English-language version, and preferred diacriticals on the Romanian-language version are two ways I'd like to use this.  Does anyone have a reason '''not''' to go ahead and use these?  I will start playing around with some for en and ro [[User:Magda/Edittools|here]], and anyone who likes can come play, too, and/or offer comments on that talk page. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 15:11, February 28, 2008 (PST)
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==Russian "Old" Churches==
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I'm a bit confused about the status of at least three articles:
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Do these represent different groups?  Looking at the history of the [[Russian Old-Orthodox Church]] and [[Russian Orthodox Oldritualist Church]], I can see that there must have been something ... but that has mysteriously disappeared.  And the [[Russian Orthodox Old-Rite Church]] article, taken from Wikipedia, has an external link to the OrthodoxWiki article Russian Orthodox Oldritualist Church.  Clarification?  —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 07:41, August 8, 2007 (PDT)
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Magda, I don't know the story behind these articles, and I'm not an expert in this area. It seems to me they would all be "Old Believer" churches, though I suppose The ROCOR parish in Erie, PA is a former Old Believer church that now is part of the Chruch Abroad, but that continues to practice the old rite. There are also a number of different Old Believer groups -- I'm not sure how they are distinguished in terms of names. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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==Conversion==
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Not sure if this is the place for this, but here goes:
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I have been wanting to convert to Eastern Orthdoxy for at least a year now. Eastern Orthodoxy to me seems to be the oldest church and probably the closest in nature to the original church of the apostles. The problem is that I have been brought up in a Unitarian/spiritualist home and lack knowledge of how to go about converting to Orthodoxy. If anyone here could help me I would be much obliged. --[[User:Gorig|Gorig]] 02:34, August 25, 2007 (PDT)
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:Hi Gorig, Thanks for your note -- may God bless you on your journey! I'd recommend visiting around to your local Orthodox parishes. Find one where you feel comfortable and talk with the priest there. If you want to say where you're located, maybe we can help point you to a church. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:18, August 25, 2007 (PDT)
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::Fr John's idea is definitely a good one; there's a list of parishes for every U.S. state on Orthowiki, so hopefully you can find one near you (or several, if you live in a large metropolitan area). But more specifically, if you're wondering what the actual conversion process consists of, it usually includes a series of catechism classes. How many and how long depends on your parish priest. When I began the process a couple years ago, for example, my priest held an after-Liturgy class two Sundays a month from October until April, when everyone in the group was baptized/chrismated (or bailed out at the last minute, in one or two cases). Each one lasted a little over an hour, and they covered basic theology, liturgics, a bit of ecclesiology, Orthodox spirituality, and lots of Church history. Of course, the detailed content depends on the priest, but you'll get the basics anywhere. Since you were brought up Unitarian, you'll probably need to be both baptized and chrismated, and a priest can tell you about doing so in due time. The best way to learn, though, is to go through a year of liturgical services, especially during Lent and Pascha. The Paschal service really is the best way to understand the heart of Orthodoxy&mdash;but you'll get there eventually(if you want, of course). Hope this helps. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 20:55, August 25, 2007 (PDT)
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:::Thank you for your help. I live in Laguna Hills, CA, by the way. --[[User:Gorig|Gorig]] 17:04, September 5, 2007 (PDT)
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== Toll-house theory ==
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Who can tell me what is the content of this theory and the orthodox view of it. [[User:Arthasfleo|Arthasfleo]] 01:25, September 11, 2007 (PDT)
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:Not I, but it looks like there are some pages here to look into: [http://orthodoxinfo.com/death/tollhouse_pomaz.aspx On the Question of the "Toll-Houses"] by Protopresbyter Michael Pomazansky. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 17:08, September 11, 2007 (PDT)
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::OK. Thank you    - [[User:Arthasfleo|Arthasfleo]] 23:23, September 12, 2007 (PDT)
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== Formatting of "List of parishes in [state]" articles ==
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As someone who occasionally uses the "List of parishes in [state]" pages to find a parish when I'm out of town, I wonder if we couldn't put forth a standard for formatting these pages to make it easier to find such information?  I'm from St. Louis, MO, and I've formatted the Missouri page so that parishes in a given metro area are all grouped together, with large headers for the metro area, and small headers for the individual municipalities:
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In this way, if you're going to visit St. Louis, for instance, you'll easily find all ten parishes in the area, not just those located in the St. Louis city limits.  Contrast this with, say, the Tennessee or Texas pages...
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...where the font size difference between major cities and small municipalities is so small as to be barely noticeable.
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:Please see [[Category talk:Parish Directory (USA)]] for a discussion on standard formatting for these pages. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 15:29, October 31, 2007 (PDT)
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== Managua Orthodox parishes ==
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Please help me locate the names, addresses, and contact info for Orthodox (preference is English-speaking) parishes/clergy in Managua, Nicaragua. Thank you. Ed Freeman, Miami Beach, Florida, USA. Edinmiami@yahoo.com.
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OrthodoxWiki commemorations in November :
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*2004 : english parent-project started
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*2006 : romanian project started (650 articles today)
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Long life to the project ! Chronia pola! Mnogaia Leta ! La Multi Ani ! --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 06:12, November 14, 2007 (PST)
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:幾年も! Mnogaia leta! --[[User:Cat68|Cat68]] 10:06, November 20, 2007 (PST)
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Thanks for your post, Fr. Julian! It's a beautiful thing to me how Orthodox Christians from all over the world have come together to build these encyclopedias. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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The "Bad Behavior" script was disabled by Fr John. So, welcome back and happy editing. --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 10:44, December 7, 2007 (PST)
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==Good Samaritan reading?==
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Evrogite! I have a question which requires understanding of the church calendar(s): On what day of the year would the Parable of the Good Samaritan have been read in southern Siberia, a century ago? (Still the 25th Sunday after Pentecost? Which would have translated into what day of the year for them?) Thank you![[User:Zla'od|Zla&#39;od]] 00:12, January 4, 2008 (PST)
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Procula]] Wife of Pilate
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I KNOW THESE! Just not off the top of my head. I can point you in the right direction for the wife of Pilate she is celebrated as one of the 7 Myrrh Bearing Women along with Mary Magdalene ... I have that Synaxaristi at home so I can not point you to her name ... or the date. However, if I can guess, they should be celebrated after Easter ... for sure! I will follow this up for you. I do not know much about Longinus but I am sure that their is a date we celebrate the poor Lazarus from the parable story ...again, this book is at home. Vasiliki [[Ixthis888]] 13:46, January 14, 2008 (PST)~
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== Real presence of the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist ==
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Greetings in the Name of the Lord,
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So...  My goal is to get to 4900 on unique articles before too long.  I'd definitely eventually like to see the 4 flip to a 5...  :)  There's a lot of stuff out there that could be written about.  Take care!  [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 20:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)
  
I have friends who have left the Orthodox Faith believing that Communion is only symbolic and not mysticalThey teach that believing the bread and the wine become the body and blood of Christ is to re-crucify our Lord, which to them is an abominable heresyMy desire is to find where the Apostolic and Church Fathers teach or refer to the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist in their writings, especially those writing prior to the Great SchismIf anyone here can help me in this quest, please notify me by posting and by emailing me at jgfarmakis@fuse.net
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: Sounds great,  [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]]! Please note this previous discussion on [[OrthodoxWiki:Administrators#Eliminating_directory_articles|Eliminating_directory_articles]] - there is certainly room for overviews and histories, but a major problem with making a directory of parishes is that things can get out of date very quickly. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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::Understood:)  As far as the Bulgarian diocese page, I figured I'd just clean it up a bit since it's been sitting there with some VERY old information (priests' names, for example) for a couple of yearsAs it was a priest in the diocese referenced who posted the info in the first place, I didn't necessarily want to just clear out the whole thing. Hope that reasoning makes some sense:) [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 01:35, May 12, 2016 (UTC)
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:::Certainly, thanks! And again, background / historical info is great. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
  
Thank you and God Bless you.
 
  
'''Response by [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:15, February 22, 2008 (PST):'''
 
:This miracle occured at '''Lanciano, Italy in the 8th century''' (300 years prior to the schisme between the Orthodox Body of Christ and the Catholic Church) ... So, this miracle occured within the Orthodox Body of Christ ... however, by rights of Geographic location it is the Catholic Church who retained the possession of the eucharist. They recently submitted the Eucharist for testing ...read the followinc excerpt:
 
  
::Ancient Anxanum, the city of the Frentanese, has contained for over twelve centuries the first and greatest Eucharistic Miracle of the Church. This wondrous Event took place in the 8th century A.D. in the little Church of St. Legontian, as a '''divine response to a Basilian monk's doubt''' about Jesus' Real Presence in the Eucharist.
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== A note on something I noticed ==
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::During Holy Mass, after the two-fold consecration, the host was changed into live Flesh and the wine was changed into live Blood, which coagulated into five globules, irregular and differing in shape and size. The Host-Flesh, as can be very distinctly observed today, has the same dimensions as the large host used today in the Latin church; it is light brown and appears rose-colored when lighted from the back. The Blood is coagulated and has an earthy color resembling the yellow of ochre.
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::Various ecclesiastical investigation ("Recognitions") were conducted since 1574.  
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Fr. John, the updates look great, thank you for the hard work!  :)  I've noticed a couple of little hiccups, but it looks like most of them have been smoothed out (the captcha acting silly, for one).  This isn't a big thing at all, but under "Special Pages", the "active users list" doesn't work anymore.  It always shows no active users, and a note that it's a cached page that might be up to 101 days old. (This number gets bigger all the time.) I think somewhere this stat must still be working, because I think on the statistics page, it does show the actual number of active users, but when you click on that, it brings you to the page that shows none. Hope you are well!  :)  [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 13:05, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
  
::In 1970-'71 and taken up again partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by the most illustrious scientist Prof. Odoardo Linoli, eminent Professor in Anatomy and Pathological Histology and in Chemistry and Clinical Microscopy. He was assisted by Prof. Ruggero Bertelli of the University of Siena. The analyses were conducted with absolute and unquestionable scientific precision and they were documented with a series of microscopic photographs.
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: Hmm... there is this bug report: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89027. I also tried clearing caches, running the Special Pages update script... didn't work. Since this is reflected on [[Special:RecentChanges|RecentChanges]], I don't think it is critical, but I am glad you pointed it out.
  
::These analyses sustained the following conclusions:
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== author credits? ==
::#The Flesh is real Flesh. The Blood is real Blood.
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::#The Flesh and the Blood belong to the human species.
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::#The Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart.
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::#In the Flesh we see present in section: the myocardium, the endocardium, the vagus nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium.
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::#The Flesh is a "HEART" complete in its essential structure.
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::#The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood-type: AB (Blood-type identical to that which Prof. Baima Bollone uncovered in the Holy Shroud of Turin).
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::#In the Blood there were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage-wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of the fresh normal blood.
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::#In the Blood there were also found these minerals: chlorides, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium.
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::#The preservation of the Flesh and of the Blood, which were left in their natural state for twelve centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents, remains an extraordinary phenomenon;
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::I can only provide you with an article (google it for more information) that has some scientific basis to it, however, there are many tales of people who were passing by an Orthodox Church and happened to walk in out of curiousity (or whatever) and witnessed the priest 'slaughtering a baby'! To tell you of these stories would require much time and effort ... I hope that the miracle of Lanciano gives you some grounds to start a discussion. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:14, February 22, 2008 (PST)
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I was under the impression that articles on this wiki (other than protected pages that are reprinted by permission) are not supposed to have 'authorship' mentioned in the article.  A couple months ago, I removed something like this from the article [[Holy Trinity Church (San Francisco, California)]], but now the "author" has put the credit to himself as author back in. He's also given himself credit on the article [[Annunciation Greek Orthodox Cathedral (San Francisco, California)]], but at least he references back to an article he wrote that was posted elsewhere on the internet.  Not being a sysop or anything, I don't want to get into an edit war here. [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 02:09, May 23, 2016 (UTC)
  
::PS ... Let us not forget what St Ignatius of Antioch said. he said that, Holy Communion is the “Medicine of Immortality”. Our Lord Himself tells us that if we do not eat His Body and drink His Blood, we have no life in us (cf.John 6:53), and He also tells us that “Those who eat My Flesh and drink My Blood abide in Me, and I in them” (John 6:56). Our Lord invites us to be united with Him at every Divine Liturgy by receiving Holy Communion - His Body and Blood. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:18, February 22, 2008 (PST)
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:The author trail is preserved in page history, and not typically in attribution on the page. I'm not too worried about this, but, especially, if someone else substantially revises/addes to the articles, I have no problem with them remove the author attribution either. By submitting content to the wiki, they have agreed to license it according to [[OrthodoxWiki:Copyright|our copyright policy]].
  
::::Type AB (IV in the Russian system) is the most recent of the blood types, having appeared during the Mongol conquests (type B Asians conquering type A's). If the blood of Christ turns out to be AB, then we must conclude either that Christ miraculously changed his blood type, or that the Holy Spirit is a Mongol.[[User:Zla&#39;od|Zla&#39;od]] 10:28, April 11, 2008 (UTC)
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==St. Ioann Listvinnik?==
  
Honestly, little of this has much of anything to do with Orthodoxy, which has always traditionally refrained from minute analyses of such thingsWhat does Jesus' blood type have to do with our salvation?
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I've been reading a bit about historic churches in Alaska, and I saw mentioned that in Tigalda (Tigalda Island, perhaps), a church was consecrated in 1844, dedicated to St. Ioann ListvinnikAnybody know if this is correct or that it might be in error? Thanks.  :)  [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 01:13, June 6, 2016 (UTC)
  
Also, whether the Roman Catholic church truly has the sacraments or not is a matter for some debate within Orthodoxy. In any event, it does not seem in keeping with piety to remove what's in the Chalice and to put it under a microscope!  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 11:27, April 11, 2008 (UTC)
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Question:  
  
== Gelasius I of Old Rome, Acacian Schism, Hormisdas ==
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When it comes to posting biographical information, should we have some sort of policy shying away from posting too much information about living people, especially Americans, due to identity theft issues?  For people born between 1970-2011, and in particular from about 1987-2011, when you have some combination of family name, birthplace, and exact date of birth, it becomes easier to guess social security numbers, especially if someone was born in a state with a smaller population. I understand that much of this information is publicly available; I just would rather not have OrthodoxWiki be the "to-go" place for people looking to steal the identities of well-known Orthodox personalities.  My general policy has been to not post exact dates of birth for people in this age range, being as that seems to be the least relevant item for OrthodoxWiki, and probably the most sensitive for identity theft, but then I see someone here who keeps putting that information back up.
[[Gelasius I of Rome]] and [[Acacian schism]] are linked in red in timeline of Church History. That is, they are linked to non-existing articles. At the end of Acacian schism the peace was made with [[Hormisdas of Rome]] who is not even mentioned.
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Catholic Encyclopedia attributes to Hormisdas having submitted to Greek bishops the formula acknowledging Roman supremacy. It was quoted by First Vatican Council.
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*[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/06/AR2009070602955.html Washington Post article about guessing Social Security Numbers]
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*[https://www.ssa.gov/employer/randomization.html The new system of assigning Social Security Numbers] Social Security Administration official site
  
[[User:Hans|Hans]] 07:27, March 11, 2008 (PDT)
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: Not sure about the SSNs, but I do think in general we should exercise some discretion in posting details about living people. Wikipedia practice can be a guide here. Obviously, things like biographies and general biographical sketches are fine, especially when this information is not controversial and someone is a public figure already. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 17:53, August 23, 2016 (UTC)
  
== American dates ==
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== August 6 and November 8 ==
  
Is there a reason to use American dates for non-English projects? Perhaps this is useful for wikis in English, but for the rest it's a bit confusing to have these strange date patterns. I would like to request to set for Bulgarian and Macedonian wiikis in the LocalSettings.php <code>$wgAmericanDates = false;</code>. Thank you. Cheers, [[User:Gregg|Gregg]] 02:10, March 26, 2008 (PDT)
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They represent the mid-season days, standing half-way between the solstice and the equinox. The same holds true for Saint Valentine's Day, which however is not celebrated liturgically in the East.
  
:I'm not sure about the local settings thing, but it seems that each language has its own titles for calendar days, at least. So, for example, today:
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* Summer Solstice: Birth of Saint John the Baptist (June 24).
*el: 31 Μάρτιος
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* Mid-Summer: Transfiguration of Christ (August 6).
*en: March 31
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* Autumn Equinox: Conception of Saint John the Baptist (September 23).
*es: 31 de marzo
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* Mid-Autumn: Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel (November 8).
*ro: 31 martie
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* Winter Solstice: Christmas (December 25).
Additionally, each user can set the date and time preferences for himself. Sorry if that doesn't address what you're talking about. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 11:38, March 31, 2008 (PDT)
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* Mid-Winter: Saint Valentine's Day (February 14, West only).
::No, this doesn't solve the problem, that's why I request this setting turned off. --[[User:Gregg|Gregg]] 01:07, April 4, 2008 (PDT)
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* Spring Equinox: Annunciation (March 25).
  
:::Hey, this is a really good point Gregg, and very helpful that you gave the name of the variable so I didn't have to look it up. I've changed all the wikis except EN to "$wgAmericanDates = false;" In the future, feel free to get my attention more quickly by leaving a note on my talk page about this stuff. - — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 01:45, April 4, 2008 (PDT)
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There is no particular Mid-Spring Feast (roughly around May 10), mostly because of the fact that such symbolism would have been swallowed up by the [[Great Feast]]s tied to the [[Pascha]]l cycle, such as [[Palm Sunday]], [[Easter]] [[Sunday]], [[Ascension]], and [[Pentecost]] (or Whit Sunday), depending on how early or how late they fall in the year. In the East, [[Candlemas]] seems to have swallowed up all the agricultural symbolism which would normally have been associated with a mid-February celebration (not that this does not happen to some extent in the West as well, see ''Groundhog Day'').
::::Thank you, [[User:Gregg|Gregg]] 12:45, April 4, 2008 (PDT)
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== St. Vlad's pages ==
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I think that this information might be useful and interesting, but I have no idea ''where'' to add it exactly. &mdash; [[User:Luci83ro|Luci83ro]] ([[User talk:Luci83ro|talk]]) 02:51, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
  
Does anyone else have a problem getting to [[St. Vladimir's Orthodox Theological Seminary (Crestwood, New York)]]?  I can get to the [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=St.%20Vladimir's%20Orthodox%20Theological%20Seminary%20(Crestwood,%20New%20York)&action=history history], but not to any of the versions, nor to edit anything. When I try, I get the following error:
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==Two questions==
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'''Please advise''' I like the category navigation at the bottom of the page which shows the entire category tree. Can someone tell me how this was set up for this wiki? Also, I would be interested in writing about [[Anabaptism]] and [[Quakerism]] and see how these [[Radical Christian]] branches would be viewed by the Orthodox and how these communities have interacted in the past. I understand the point of view on this site is Orthodox and the scope is mostly about Orthodoxy--would articles like this be welcome here? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 23:24, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
  
'''Fatal error''': Call to undefined function wfStrencode() in '''/home/owiki/public_html/shared/extensions/ExternalRSS.php''' on line '''206'''
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:Hi Justin. I don't think there is any special plugin for the categories - this is just normal MediaWiki functionality. About the Anabaptists and Quakers, I think an article about specific history of relations, theological dialogues, etc. could be interesting. I don't think this is the place for an exhaustive treatment of AnabaptistQuaker theology - hope that makes sense. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 01:23, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
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::'''Theological discussions''' It does and that's consistent with what I thought was the case. I know that some Anabaptists traded letters with Eastern Christians during the Radical Reformation when they were being persecuted unto death by Catholics and Protestants. I'm not sure how many sources there are on this but I'd like to know. Furthermore, I'd be interested in seeing what some Orthodox perspectives would be on these groups. Thanks--I will try to get together the sources sometime to draft up an article. If anyone else has feedback, please let me know. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 01:39, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
  
—[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 15:15, April 4, 2008 (PDT)
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::: I'd be interested to learn more about these dialogues — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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::::'''Dialogues''' This is very non-academic but it's where I first heard about these exchanges: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3gmiay/how_do_catholic_and_orthodox_users_here_view_the/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1itf5x/to_nonprotestants_what_should_the_reformers_have/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1tx8r2/how_do_eastern_orthodox_view_protestants/ and then did some Internet searches. It would be nice if I could get something more substantial. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 05:27, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
  
==French localization (français)==
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:::One thing to keep in mind for OrthodoxWiki is that we aim to be encyclopedia like, meaning the focus is on the ''who, what, where, and when'' rather than personal interpretation. Following Wikipedia, we have called this the "[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view "neutral point of view"], although we also have an [[OrthodoxWiki:Style_Manual_(Point_of_View)|"Orthodox bias"]].
The [[:fr:Accueil|french localization]] is released. If you speak french, please come help the new-born site.<br>
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[[:fr:Accueil|OrthodoxWiki en français]] a été lancé à l'eau. Si vous êtes francophone, n'hésitez pas de donner [[:fr:Accueil|un coup de main]]. --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 23:37, April 8, 2008 (UTC)
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So... My goal is to get to 4900 on unique articles before too long. I'd definitely eventually like to see the 4 flip to a 5...  :) There's a lot of stuff out there that could be written about. Take care! Katjuscha (talk) 20:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds great, Katjuscha! Please note this previous discussion on Eliminating_directory_articles - there is certainly room for overviews and histories, but a major problem with making a directory of parishes is that things can get out of date very quickly. — FrJohn (talk)
Understood.  :) As far as the Bulgarian diocese page, I figured I'd just clean it up a bit since it's been sitting there with some VERY old information (priests' names, for example) for a couple of years. As it was a priest in the diocese referenced who posted the info in the first place, I didn't necessarily want to just clear out the whole thing. Hope that reasoning makes some sense.  :) Katjuscha (talk) 01:35, May 12, 2016 (UTC)
Certainly, thanks! And again, background / historical info is great. — FrJohn (talk)


A note on something I noticed

Fr. John, the updates look great, thank you for the hard work!  :) I've noticed a couple of little hiccups, but it looks like most of them have been smoothed out (the captcha acting silly, for one). This isn't a big thing at all, but under "Special Pages", the "active users list" doesn't work anymore. It always shows no active users, and a note that it's a cached page that might be up to 101 days old. (This number gets bigger all the time.) I think somewhere this stat must still be working, because I think on the statistics page, it does show the actual number of active users, but when you click on that, it brings you to the page that shows none. Hope you are well!  :) Katjuscha (talk) 13:05, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Hmm... there is this bug report: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89027. I also tried clearing caches, running the Special Pages update script... didn't work. Since this is reflected on RecentChanges, I don't think it is critical, but I am glad you pointed it out.

author credits?

I was under the impression that articles on this wiki (other than protected pages that are reprinted by permission) are not supposed to have 'authorship' mentioned in the article. A couple months ago, I removed something like this from the article Holy Trinity Church (San Francisco, California), but now the "author" has put the credit to himself as author back in. He's also given himself credit on the article Annunciation Greek Orthodox Cathedral (San Francisco, California), but at least he references back to an article he wrote that was posted elsewhere on the internet. Not being a sysop or anything, I don't want to get into an edit war here. Katjuscha (talk) 02:09, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

The author trail is preserved in page history, and not typically in attribution on the page. I'm not too worried about this, but, especially, if someone else substantially revises/addes to the articles, I have no problem with them remove the author attribution either. By submitting content to the wiki, they have agreed to license it according to our copyright policy.

St. Ioann Listvinnik?

I've been reading a bit about historic churches in Alaska, and I saw mentioned that in Tigalda (Tigalda Island, perhaps), a church was consecrated in 1844, dedicated to St. Ioann Listvinnik. Anybody know if this is correct or that it might be in error? Thanks.  :) Katjuscha (talk) 01:13, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

Question:

When it comes to posting biographical information, should we have some sort of policy shying away from posting too much information about living people, especially Americans, due to identity theft issues? For people born between 1970-2011, and in particular from about 1987-2011, when you have some combination of family name, birthplace, and exact date of birth, it becomes easier to guess social security numbers, especially if someone was born in a state with a smaller population. I understand that much of this information is publicly available; I just would rather not have OrthodoxWiki be the "to-go" place for people looking to steal the identities of well-known Orthodox personalities. My general policy has been to not post exact dates of birth for people in this age range, being as that seems to be the least relevant item for OrthodoxWiki, and probably the most sensitive for identity theft, but then I see someone here who keeps putting that information back up.

Not sure about the SSNs, but I do think in general we should exercise some discretion in posting details about living people. Wikipedia practice can be a guide here. Obviously, things like biographies and general biographical sketches are fine, especially when this information is not controversial and someone is a public figure already. — FrJohn (talk) 17:53, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

August 6 and November 8

They represent the mid-season days, standing half-way between the solstice and the equinox. The same holds true for Saint Valentine's Day, which however is not celebrated liturgically in the East.

  • Summer Solstice: Birth of Saint John the Baptist (June 24).
  • Mid-Summer: Transfiguration of Christ (August 6).
  • Autumn Equinox: Conception of Saint John the Baptist (September 23).
  • Mid-Autumn: Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel (November 8).
  • Winter Solstice: Christmas (December 25).
  • Mid-Winter: Saint Valentine's Day (February 14, West only).
  • Spring Equinox: Annunciation (March 25).

There is no particular Mid-Spring Feast (roughly around May 10), mostly because of the fact that such symbolism would have been swallowed up by the Great Feasts tied to the Paschal cycle, such as Palm Sunday, Easter Sunday, Ascension, and Pentecost (or Whit Sunday), depending on how early or how late they fall in the year. In the East, Candlemas seems to have swallowed up all the agricultural symbolism which would normally have been associated with a mid-February celebration (not that this does not happen to some extent in the West as well, see Groundhog Day).

I think that this information might be useful and interesting, but I have no idea where to add it exactly. — Luci83ro (talk) 02:51, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Two questions

Please advise I like the category navigation at the bottom of the page which shows the entire category tree. Can someone tell me how this was set up for this wiki? Also, I would be interested in writing about Anabaptism and Quakerism and see how these Radical Christian branches would be viewed by the Orthodox and how these communities have interacted in the past. I understand the point of view on this site is Orthodox and the scope is mostly about Orthodoxy--would articles like this be welcome here? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 23:24, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Hi Justin. I don't think there is any special plugin for the categories - this is just normal MediaWiki functionality. About the Anabaptists and Quakers, I think an article about specific history of relations, theological dialogues, etc. could be interesting. I don't think this is the place for an exhaustive treatment of AnabaptistQuaker theology - hope that makes sense. — FrJohn (talk) 01:23, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
Theological discussions It does and that's consistent with what I thought was the case. I know that some Anabaptists traded letters with Eastern Christians during the Radical Reformation when they were being persecuted unto death by Catholics and Protestants. I'm not sure how many sources there are on this but I'd like to know. Furthermore, I'd be interested in seeing what some Orthodox perspectives would be on these groups. Thanks--I will try to get together the sources sometime to draft up an article. If anyone else has feedback, please let me know. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 01:39, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
I'd be interested to learn more about these dialogues — FrJohn (talk)
Dialogues This is very non-academic but it's where I first heard about these exchanges: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3gmiay/how_do_catholic_and_orthodox_users_here_view_the/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1itf5x/to_nonprotestants_what_should_the_reformers_have/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1tx8r2/how_do_eastern_orthodox_view_protestants/ and then did some Internet searches. It would be nice if I could get something more substantial. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 05:27, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
One thing to keep in mind for OrthodoxWiki is that we aim to be encyclopedia like, meaning the focus is on the who, what, where, and when rather than personal interpretation. Following Wikipedia, we have called this the ""neutral point of view", although we also have an "Orthodox bias".