Difference between revisions of "Category talk:Bishops by city"

From OrthodoxWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
(New page: I started these Subcategories to help crosscheck the succession boxes that are in our bishop articles. First I thought that I could modify the [[Template:Succession|Succession box template...)
 
 
(3 intermediate revisions by 2 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
 
I started these Subcategories to help crosscheck the succession boxes that are in our bishop articles. First I thought that I could modify the [[Template:Succession|Succession box template]] but its usage of the <nowiki> {{title}} </nowiki> was inconsistent, sometimes contained links.  - [[User:Andrew|Andy]] 20:31, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
I started these Subcategories to help crosscheck the succession boxes that are in our bishop articles. First I thought that I could modify the [[Template:Succession|Succession box template]] but its usage of the <nowiki> {{title}} </nowiki> was inconsistent, sometimes contained links.  - [[User:Andrew|Andy]] 20:31, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
 +
 +
==Subcategories proposed==
 +
Since there are so many articles on so many bishops, and the number will grow over time, for greater organizational purposes I propose that we follow the convention used over at Wikipedia, where they have sub-categories for: "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Eastern_Orthodox_bishops_by_period Category:Eastern Orthodox bishops by period]." Thus, for example, they have sub-categories for bishops by century:
 +
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:19th-century_Eastern_Orthodox_bishops 19th-century Eastern Orthodox bishops‎]
 +
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:20th-century_Eastern_Orthodox_bishops 20th-century Eastern Orthodox bishops‎]
 +
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:21st-century_Eastern_Orthodox_bishops 21st-century Eastern Orthodox bishops]‎, etc.
 +
Perhaps most of our entries will fall under either the 19th, 20th or 21st centuries, so may just need these 3 subcategories to begin; also, the name of the category here on OW would be shortened to something like "19th-century bishops‎". Thought I would raise the idea at any rate. Would be willing to go back and add the categories to existing articles. Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 11:56, February 6, 2012 (HST)
 +
 +
:Yes, the number of bishops is becoming large. At times I've thought about other categorization but couldn't come up with a scheme without some sort of complications. One way would be by date, such as you suggest, but setting it at only century interval could lead to many bishops that span over a century change - would one then place the bishop in both centuries? Perhaps a greater time interval would work better. The 'by city' category is one course, but witness, there are a lot of cities! One thought I had, was to establish categories by autocephalous/autonomous churches with bishops outside of the recognized churches placed in a 'miscellaneous or other' category. There maybe other neater approaches - if we can come up with them!!  [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 14:33, February 7, 2012 (HST)
 +
 +
::Hi WSK, all very good points, I agree.
 +
 +
::In regards to categorization by DATE, we can overcome the difficulty of those bishops that span over 2 centuries, by creating categories such as: "18th and 19th Century Bishops", and "19th and 20th Century Bishops" etc., while still maintaining the individual categories for each century. Classification by date would be good to have I think.
 +
 +
::In regards to classification by JURISDICTION (by autocephalous/autonomous churches), I think this would be a second valuable method for classification and organization, as you say above, I also had the same idea before reading your comments. For these categories, we should perhaps draft a complete list of the category names first, here, before we proceed.
 +
 +
::And so, if there are no objections, I think we should proceed with both the DATE and JURISDICTION classifications at some point.
 +
 +
::Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 05:19, February 9, 2012 (HST)
 +
 +
:::That would be fine. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 06:06, February 9, 2012 (HST)

Latest revision as of 16:06, February 9, 2012

I started these Subcategories to help crosscheck the succession boxes that are in our bishop articles. First I thought that I could modify the Succession box template but its usage of the {{title}} was inconsistent, sometimes contained links. - Andy 20:31, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Subcategories proposed

Since there are so many articles on so many bishops, and the number will grow over time, for greater organizational purposes I propose that we follow the convention used over at Wikipedia, where they have sub-categories for: "Category:Eastern Orthodox bishops by period." Thus, for example, they have sub-categories for bishops by century:

Perhaps most of our entries will fall under either the 19th, 20th or 21st centuries, so may just need these 3 subcategories to begin; also, the name of the category here on OW would be shortened to something like "19th-century bishops‎". Thought I would raise the idea at any rate. Would be willing to go back and add the categories to existing articles. Cheers, Angellight 888 11:56, February 6, 2012 (HST)

Yes, the number of bishops is becoming large. At times I've thought about other categorization but couldn't come up with a scheme without some sort of complications. One way would be by date, such as you suggest, but setting it at only century interval could lead to many bishops that span over a century change - would one then place the bishop in both centuries? Perhaps a greater time interval would work better. The 'by city' category is one course, but witness, there are a lot of cities! One thought I had, was to establish categories by autocephalous/autonomous churches with bishops outside of the recognized churches placed in a 'miscellaneous or other' category. There maybe other neater approaches - if we can come up with them!! Wsk 14:33, February 7, 2012 (HST)
Hi WSK, all very good points, I agree.
In regards to categorization by DATE, we can overcome the difficulty of those bishops that span over 2 centuries, by creating categories such as: "18th and 19th Century Bishops", and "19th and 20th Century Bishops" etc., while still maintaining the individual categories for each century. Classification by date would be good to have I think.
In regards to classification by JURISDICTION (by autocephalous/autonomous churches), I think this would be a second valuable method for classification and organization, as you say above, I also had the same idea before reading your comments. For these categories, we should perhaps draft a complete list of the category names first, here, before we proceed.
And so, if there are no objections, I think we should proceed with both the DATE and JURISDICTION classifications at some point.
Cheers, Angellight 888 05:19, February 9, 2012 (HST)
That would be fine. Wsk 06:06, February 9, 2012 (HST)