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== I'm thinking of working on a more comprehensive and sortable Prayer Book guide. As part of this I'd write to all of the authors/publishers and ask for permission to post a select full prayer or two; if I got no response, if I'm able to get ahold of a copy, or network with others, I'd investigate how much of a book one can include under fair use for review purposes. So I'm wondering if people like this idea, and if so if there are any strong feelings regarding what prayer or prayer(s) to include. My initial thought is the prayer usually attributed to St. Macarius the Great that includes a hello line, depending on the translation, like ''"Be merciful to me, a sinner devoid of any good deeds."'' or ''"God, cleanse me a sinner, for I have never done anything ultimately good in Your sight."'' Thanks and thanks to the admins for my new page ==shiny account, -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 16:38, February 17, 2020 (UTC): Also, as this forum doesn't seem to be super-active, and I'd want to collaborate with people with prayer book collections who have no interest in getting an account here and then figuring out how to use than less-than-completly-intuitive old-style MediaWiki discussion format, I've created a deeply unofficial mailing list at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/orthodoxwiki - but if y'all want to (or want me to - I'm a SysAdmin) set up an actual official MailMan mailing list @orthodoxwiki.org, or something along these lines already exists, let me know. Note that it'll send you an email with a link you have to follow, so be sure to check your spam/trash if you don't get anything after a minute or two. -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 17:17, February 17, 2020 (UTC)
So... My goal is == For Discussion: Could Early Modern English be added as a separate language to get to 4900 on unique articles before too long. I'd definitely eventually like to see the 4 flip to a 5... :) There's a lot of stuff out there that could be written about. Take care! [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 20:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)wiki? ==
I'm trying to figure out the best way to include text in both [https: Sounds great//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Modern_English Early Modern English] and Contemporary English versions, and I've come to the conclusion that the cleanest way to do this may be to have Early Modern English as a separate language on the wiki, so all the MediaWiki functionality regarding translations could be utilized. I'm in no way wedded to this idea, and of course I need to convince the admins to do this. So, thoughts? -[[User:KatjuschaDclark|KatjuschaDclark]]! Please note this previous discussion on ([[OrthodoxWikiUser talk:Administrators#Eliminating_directory_articlesDclark|Eliminating_directory_articlestalk]] - there ) 17:25, March 7, 2020 (UTC):How much content do you think would be in Early Modern English? This is certainly room for overviews and histories, but a major problem with making a directory of parishes is that things can get small wiki: why would we separate it out of date very quickly. — into even smaller bits? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[Usertalk:FrJohnKoavf|<b>FrJohn<T]]·[[Special:Contributions/b>Koavf|C]] (·[[httpSpecial:Emailuser//orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talkKoavf|M]])17::Understood. :) As far as the Bulgarian diocese page40, March 7, I figured I'd just clean it up a bit since it's been sitting there with some VERY old information 2020 (priests' names, for exampleUTC) for a couple of yearsGood Point; probably not worth it. As it My aim was a priest in just to preserve the diocese referenced who posted the info information in the first place, I didnarchaic English without having to look at it if you don't necessarily want to ; but thinking about it I can just clear put a link to the public domain source material, and if anyone really wants the old english the onus can be on them to figure out the whole thing. Hope that reasoning makes some sense. how to do it nicely :-) -[[User:KatjuschaDclark|KatjuschaDclark]] ([[User talk:KatjuschaDclark|talk]]) 0118:3529, May 12March 10, 2016 2020 (UTC):::CertainlyOh, thanks! And againI think it's worth having here, background too. Just make a page like Name/ historical info is greatOld English or include it in the relevant source or something. We had a source document sister project for a bit but it was unsustainable. I don't think anyone would complain about you porting over public domain Old English sources that are relevant to Orthodoxy. — Please do! -[[User:FrJohnKoavf|<b>FrJohn<Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/b>Koavf|C]] (·[[httpSpecial:Emailuser//orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talkKoavf|M]] 19:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]47, March 10, 2020 (UTC) == A note on something I noticed == Fr. JohnOh nifty, the updates look great, thank do you for remember the hard work! :) I've noticed a couple of little hiccups, but it looks like most URL of them have been smoothed out (the captcha acting silly, for one). This isnsister project? I't d love to just take a big thing at all, but under "Special Pages", the "active users list" doesn't work anymorelook around with archive. It always shows no active users, and a note that it's a cached page that might be up org to 101 days old. (This number gets bigger all the time.) I think somewhere this stat must still see what people were thinking would be working, because I think on the statistics page, it does show the actual number of active users, but when you click on that, it brings you to the page that shows none. Hope you are well! cool back then :-) -[[User:KatjuschaDclark|KatjuschaDclark]] ([[User talk:KatjuschaDclark|talk]]) 1320:0559, May 19March 10, 2016 2020 (UTC) : Hmm... there is this bug reportHaving a hard time finding it (just did 15 minutes poking around page histories and Internet Archive myself) but you can see the link on the Commons homepage: https://phabricatorcommons.wikimediaorthodoxwiki.org/T89027Main_Page the old "Osource:" prefix is long deleted. As I also tried clearing cachesrecall, running it never hosted much and really, it could just be combined into the Special Pages update scriptappropriate language edition with scans or recordings going to commons.If you are adventurous, you can probably find it yourself in the Trapeza archives somewhere.. didnIf you ''really''t workneed to find it, let me know. Since this is reflected on -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:RecentChangesContributions/Koavf|RecentChangesC]], I don't think it is critical, but I am glad you pointed it out. == author credits? == I was under the impression that articles on this wiki (other than protected pages that are reprinted by permission) are not supposed to have 'authorship' mentioned in the article. A couple months ago, I removed something like this from the article ·[[Holy Trinity Church (San Francisco, California)Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]22:41, but now the "author" has put the credit to himself as author back in. He's also given himself credit on the article [[Annunciation Greek Orthodox Cathedral March 10, 2020 (San Francisco, CaliforniaUTC)]]Sweet, but at least he references back to an article he wrote that was posted elsewhere on the internetenough to find https://web.archive.org/web/20081225074135/http://www. Not being a sysop or anything, I don't want to get into an edit war hereorthodoxsource. org/Main_Page thanks! -[[User:KatjuschaDclark|KatjuschaDclark]] ([[User talk:KatjuschaDclark|talk]]) 0200:0911, May 23March 11, 2016 2020 (UTC) :The author trail is preserved in page historyNice. Thanks for editing, and not typically in attribution on the pageD. Hope to see you around some. I'm not too worried about this, very active here but, especially, if someone else substantially revises/addes to the articles, I have no problem with them remove the author attribution either. By submitting content do pop in from time to the wiki, they have agreed to license it according to [[OrthodoxWiki:Copyright|our copyright policy]]. ==St. Ioann Listvinnik?== I've been reading a bit about historic churches in Alaska, time and I saw mentioned that in Tigalda watch the Trapeza (Tigalda Island, perhapsobviously), a church was consecrated in 1844, dedicated to St. Ioann Listvinnik. Anybody Let me know if this is correct or that it might be in error? Thanksyou need anything else. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf) ]]·[[Usertalk:KatjuschaKoavf|KatjuschaT]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C] (]·[[User talkSpecial:KatjuschaEmailuser/Koavf|talkM]]) 0100:1336, June 6March 11, 2016 2020 (UTC) Question:
When it comes == Anyone on / want to posting biographical information, should we have some sort of policy shying away from posting too much information about living people, especially Americans, due to identity theft issuesbe on a Discord server? For people born between 1970-2011, and in particular from about 1987-2011, when you have some combination of family name, birthplace, and exact date of birth, it becomes easier to guess social security numbers, especially if someone was born in a state with a smaller population. I understand that much of this information is publicly available; I just would rather not have OrthodoxWiki be the "to-go" place for people looking to steal the identities of well-known Orthodox personalities. My general policy has been to not post exact dates of birth for people in this age range, being as that seems to be the least relevant item for OrthodoxWiki, and probably the most sensitive for identity theft, but then I see someone here who keeps putting that information back up.==
*No one's been on the [http[OrthodoxWiki:Chat|IRC]] channel any time I've been around, and I believe none of the other IRC channels re://wwwOrthodoxy I've found have been active either.washingtonpostAlthough I love IRC from a political and technical POV, Discord seems to have supplanted it for most people.com/wpI'm currently on all 8 of the Orthodoxy-dynrelated Discord servers I've found, checking them out. '''''Does anyone else use Discord? If so, what server /content/article/2009/07/06/AR2009070602955username?''''' (I'm Dclark). Perhaps we could petition the admins on whatever server we all mutually use to make an #OrthodoxWiki channel on their Discord server for us.html Washington Post article about guessing Social Security Numbers-[[User:Dclark|Dclark]]*([[httpsUser talk://www.ssa.gov/employer/randomization.html The new system of assigning Social Security NumbersDclark|talk]] Social Security Administration official site) 16:57, March 17, 2020 (UTC)
: Not sure about the SSNs, but I do think in general we should exercise some discretion == Call for new editors in posting details about living people. Wikipedia practice can be a guide here. Obviously, things like biographies and general biographical sketches are fine, especially when this information is not controversial and someone is a public figure already. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.phptime of pandemic?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 17:53, August 23, 2016 (UTC)
== August 6 How would people feel about doing a call for new editors on various Orthodox fora? My thought is that the pandemic is giving some people a whole lot to do, but a lot of other people a lot of hurry up and November 8 ==waiting to do. I know that the minor edits I've been doing recently have helped me feel like there is more purpose to my days, and have been a welcome focus away from the news. On the other hand, I can see that, especially if worded poorly, such a call could seem callous and disrespectful. -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 19:08, March 22, 2020 (UTC):I think that's valuable for society and for this wiki, in its own tiny way. Finding something useful to do is a good way to keep from going stir-crazy or feeling despondent. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 22:05, March 22, 2020 (UTC):Hi! As far as conversation and whatnot, things here have been pretty quiet for a LONG time. I'd be on more, but Coronavirus or not, I've not got a whole lot of time. If I'm here, I'm usually over at the [[Orthodox Blogs]] page. I've been on OrthodoxWiki since 2005; a lot of the people who contributed a lot in the early days did so in the days before full-time jobs and families and the like. ;) It's always been a struggle to get new people who stick around - I'm not a mod, but it's great to have more activity here! [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[User talk:Katjuscha|talk]]) 03:23, April 2, 2020 (UTC)
They represent the mid-season days, standing half-way between the solstice == Could an admin add this CSS that gives icons to youtube and the equinox. The same holds true for Saint Valentine's Day, which however is not celebrated liturgically in the East.reddit links (like facebook)? ==
* Summer Solstice<poem>'''Could an admin add this to the appropriate place? https://orthodoxwiki.org/User: Birth of Saint John Dclark/common.css'''It gives icons to youtube and reddit links, like the Baptist (June 24)facebook icons you can see at [[Livestreams]].* MidAlso you might want to add the <code>padding-Summerright: Transfiguration 0px</code> to facebook and any other pre-existing instances of Christ icons, as there is a bug where a big space is inserted after the link which looks ugly, e.g. in "[http://facebook.com/ here]." there is no space in the wikitext between the link and the period, there is just an unfortunate 13px padding for some reason.Thanks! (August 6Note: If you want to add icons to other links, the awesome font icons are all listed at https://astronautweb.co/snippet/font-awesome/).* Autumn Equinox(Note 2: Conception There is a bug in all of Saint John these icons, including the pre-existing facebook, where it puts an icon in the TOC if just the word is in the heading. Ideally the CSS for mine and the Baptist (September 23existing facebook icon should be edited so it doesn't do this, but this is beyond my CSS capabilities.).* Mid</poem>-Autumn[[User: Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel Dclark|Dclark]] (November 8[[User talk:Dclark|talk]]).* Winter Solstice17: Christmas 51, April 12, 2020 (December 25UTC).:Just thought I'd do a *gentle nudge* Midon this as I noticed the remote services page is now linked to from the front page. If no one wants to do this I'll do it, I believe someone just needs to give me access to https://orthodoxwiki.org/MediaWiki:Common.css -Winter-[[User: Saint Valentine's Day Dclark|Dclark]] (February 14, West only[[User talk:Dclark|talk]]).* Spring Equinox13: Annunciation 09, April 26, 2022 (March 25UTC).
There is no particular Mid-Spring Feast (roughly around May 10), mostly because of the fact that such symbolism would have been swallowed up by the [[Great Feast]]s tied to the [[Pascha]]l cycle, such as [[Palm Sunday]], [[Easter]] [[Sunday]], [[Ascension]], and [[Pentecost]] (or Whit Sunday), depending on how early or how late they fall in the year. In the East, [[Candlemas]] seems to have swallowed up all the agricultural symbolism which would normally have been associated with == just a mid-February celebration (not that this does not happen to some extent in the West as well, see ''Groundhog Day''). note about a Canadian Orthodox History Wiki ==
I think that stumbled across this information might be useful and interestingthe other day - definitely not the same as OrthodoxWiki, but I have no idea ''where'' to add it exactlyinteresting nonetheless: https://orthodoxcanada. — ca/Main_Page[[User:Luci83roKatjuscha|Luci83roKatjuscha]] ([[User talk:Luci83roKatjuscha|talk]]) 03:02:51, September 23November 20, 2016 2022 (UTC)
==Two questionsAligning Templates to Right/Left, allowing text to wrap. =='''Please advise''' I like the category navigation at the bottom of the page which shows the entire category tree. Can someone tell me how this was set up for this wiki? Also, I would be interested in writing about [[Anabaptism]] and [[Quakerism]] and see how these [[Radical Christian]] branches would be viewed by the Orthodox and how these communities have interacted in the past. I understand the point of view on this site is Orthodox and the scope is mostly about Orthodoxy--would articles like this be welcome here? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 23:24, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
:Hi Justin. I don't think there is any special plugin for Hello, everyone! For those on the categories New Calendar - this - Christ is just normal MediaWiki functionality. About the Anabaptists and Quakers, I think an article about specific history born! For those of relations, theological dialogues, etc. could be interesting. I donus who aren't think this is the place for an exhaustive treatment of AnabaptistQuaker theology - hope that makes sense. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 01:23, October 3, 2016 (UTC)::we'''Theological discussions''' It does and that's consistent with what I thought was the case. I know that some Anabaptists traded letters with Eastern Christians during the Radical Reformation when they were being persecuted unto death by Catholics and Protestants. I'm not sure how many sources there are on this but I'd like to know. Furthermore, I'd be interested in seeing what some Orthodox perspectives would be on these groups. Thanks--I will try to get together the sources sometime to draft up an article. If anyone else has feedback, please let me knowve still got a couple of weeks. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 01:39, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
::: Right now I'd be interested am trying to learn more about these dialogues — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn<create/b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk])::::'''Dialogues''' This is very non-academic but it's where update the lives of the Prophets and I first heard about these exchanges: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3gmiay/how_do_catholic_and_orthodox_users_here_view_the/ have created a template for a series on their lives and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1itf5x/to_nonprotestants_what_should_the_reformers_have/ and https://pay.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1tx8r2/how_do_eastern_orthodox_view_protestants/ not the Prophetical books themselves, as that has already been created and then did some Internet searchesdone well. It would be nice if I could get something more substantial. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 05:27, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
:::One thing I am having a problem with text not being able to keep in mind for OrthodoxWiki is that we aim wrap around the template no matter what tag I add to be encyclopedia likethe template or articles themselves, meaning leaving quite a gap between the focus is on body of text and the ''who, what, where, and when'' rather than personal interpretationbottom of the page. Following Wikipedia, we have called I know this the "[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view "neutral point of view"], although we also have an [[OrthodoxWiki:Style_Manual_(Point_of_View)|"Orthodox bias"]]does not look good and I am hoping to fix that.
== ru.orthodoxwiki closure ==I decided to discuss the matter of the closure of the russian languge edition of the orthodoxwiki because of enduring lack of activity. Precisely, there is no activity at all. I have wrote to Main page talk about that, but recived no answers see [[:ru:Обсуждение:Заглавная страница]]. I want to note that for almost 12 years of existence of ru.orthodoxwiki.org I was the first who left a message at that talk page. The project is completely dead, and no reason to expect its revival. To make sure of this you can Could anyone take a look at the list of [https://ru.orthodoxwiki.org/Служебная:Новые_страницы most recently created articles]. At the same time, Easern Orthodox subjects if there are successfully developing any issues in the Russian Wikipedia and the Free Orthodox Encyclopaedia "Drevo" (httpmy Template://drevo-info.ru). A few existing ru.orthodoxwiki articles can OTProphets to find where my error might be transferred to "Drevo". ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 12:35, January 14, 2018 (UTC): As a point of order, coming from? Or am I would propose that we keep the content and have missing a banner tag that says that the site can should be reactivated with simple instructions on how it can be started up again (i.e. ask an admin here at the Trapeza). -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 19:57, January 14, 2018 (UTC):: There is no reason to protect ru.orthodoxwiki from added during article editing beacause no one else wanted to edit it. ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 22:11, January 14, 2018 (UTC)::: Thanks for bringing this up. I'm fine with deletion, as long as we can be assured that no significant contributions will be lost. There are 412 content pages listed at [[ru:Служебная:Статистика]]. I am fine with moving things to [http://drevo-info.ru/ Drevo-info.ru] IF their license is compatible. (I did not find licensing information there.) Otherwise or additionally [https://ru.wikipedia.org ru.wikipedia.org]. You can see what we have done with Archived Localizations at [[OrthodoxWiki:Localization#Archived_Localizations]]. What do you recommend? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 19:54, January 27, 2018 (UTC):::: About 10 years ago the articles from OrthodoxWiki were often translated into "Drevo" from english language. And then the rules become more stringent and it was not recommended to link to Wikipedia and Wikidedia-like projects. The Drevo use is's content for non-commercial purposes. In this way, the Drevo articles copied to Wikipedia violates the copyrights. ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 11:26, January 29, 2018 (UTC):::: Of course, I wanted to move the articles first, and then delete ru.orthodoxwiki. But first I wanted to hear an answer. Now I have heard it. ~ [[User:Чръный человек|Чръный человек]] ([[User talk:Чръный человек|talk]]) 14:57, January 29, 2018 (UTC)::::: Thank you for taking care of this. The licensing is primarily borrowed a little tricky, since both the GFDL and the CC-BY-SA licenses do not allow republishing of derivative work under a more restrictive license. My recommendation, if the people at Drevo will allow it, is to move all articles there and include a note about source and licensing. All authors should be given appropriate credit. A workaround is if the authors of an article agree to re-license their work under Drevo's terms. For example, if you are the author of the whole of an article (or the article was taken fully suggested template from Drevo) there is no issue at all moving it there. I have no idea how Copyright law is structured or enforced in Russia. As you know, the GFDL and CC-BY-SA licenses do not prohibit for-profit use—however any for-profit use is seriously compromised by the "viral" nature of these open source licenses (since any derivative work must likewise be open sourced). In any case, please let me know when content has been moved and I will go ahead and remove the RU wiki. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/indexWikipedia with some additions.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 21:14, January 30, 2018 (UTC)
== If I was Please let me know if you're able to work on a prayer book comparison, what prayer / attributes should I include? ==help me out here.
I'm thinking of working on a more comprehensive and sortable Prayer Book guide. As part of this I'd write to all of the authors/publishers and ask for permission to post a select full prayer or two; if I got no responseIn Christ, if I'm able to get ahold of a copy, or network with others, I'd investigate how much of a book one can include under fair use for review purposes. So I'm wondering if people like this idea, and if so if there are any strong feelings regarding what prayer or prayer(s) to include. My initial thought is the prayer usually attributed to St. Macarius the Great that includes a line, depending on the translation, like ''"Be merciful to me, a sinner devoid of any good deeds."'' or ''"God, cleanse me a sinner, for I have never done anything ultimately good in Your sight."'' Thanks and thanks to the admins for my new shiny account, -[[User:DclarkIoannplyler|DclarkIoannplyler]] ([[User talk:DclarkIoannplyler|talk]]) 1606:3828, February 17December 30, 2020 2022 (UTC): Also, as this forum doesn't seem to be super-active, and I'd want to collaborate with people with prayer book collections who have no interest in getting an account here and then figuring out how to use than less-than-completly-intuitive old-style MediaWiki discussion format, I've created a deeply unofficial mailing list at http://mailmanDone.mitThanks for your work.edu/mailman/listinfo/orthodoxwiki - but if y'all want to [[User:Koavf|Justin (or want me to - I'm a SysAdminkoavf) set up an actual official MailMan mailing list @orthodoxwiki.org]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 07:04, or something along these lines already existsDecember 30, let me know. Note that it'll send you an email with a link 2022 (UTC)::Thank you have to follow, Justin! That is so much nicer. I will be sure back on tomorrow to make some more additions to check your spam/trash if you don't get anything after a minute or twothe minor prophets as I summarize the Synaxarion readings. -[[User:DclarkIoannplyler|DclarkIoannplyler]] ([[User talk:DclarkIoannplyler|talk]]) 1707:1716, February 17December 30, 2020 2022 (UTC)
== For Discussion: Could Early Modern English be added as a separate language to the wikiIs anyone still around? ==
I'm trying to figure out the best way to include text in both [https:Greetings, sisters and brothers!<br />Are there still people actively editing correcting?<br /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Modern_English Early Modern English] >I for one have been quite inactive for some time and Contemporary English versions, and I've come to the conclusion that the cleanest way have forgotten how to do this may be some things.<br />If there is anyone still able to have Early Modern English as a separate language on the wikispare some time, so all the MediaWiki functionality regarding translations could it would be utilized. I'm in no way wedded to this idea, and of course I need to convince the admins a blessing to do thistidy up some links with new articles. So, thoughts? -[[User:Dclark<br />God bless! {{unsigned|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 17:25, March 7, 2020 (UTC)Petermav}}:How much content do Did you think would be have any particular edits in Early Modern English? This is a small wiki: why would we separate it out into even smaller bitsmind? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 1704:4009, March 7June 6, 2020 2025 (UTC)::The new saints' articles need to be linked with the dates. {{unsigned|Petermav}}