==Note==Vasiliki, thank you for your kind note. I think if you'll take a tend to be history buff - so I like to look at encyclopedias such as behind the ''Oxford Dictionary fluff of the Christian Church'' or the ''Blackwell Dictionary of Eastern Christianity'', or any other encyclopedia, you'll find that etymology usually only takes up perhaps tradition (small t) get a few words in parentheses after the initial name picture of the entry, ewhat "really" happened.gBill/Basil/Vasily. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 20:31, '''''Stephen the Protomartyr''' January 20, 2009 (Gk. ''stephanos'', "crown"UTC)'''''.

I'd strongly recommend that you take a look at these stylistically standard sources when editing articles to get a sense of the standards that we've been using on OrthodoxWiki for the past few years. Thanks! &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" faceMinor edits ="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 10:40, January 17, 2008 (PST)

== Helpful I've noticed you've recently made a huge number of edits all marked as "minor." Please remember that "minor" edits are things like fixing spelling, minor formatting issues, fixing links ==*[http://orthodoxresearchinstitute, etc.org/resources/hierarchs/alphabetical Adding content is almost never minor.htm Orthodox Research Institute] listing of hierarchs ( This may seem pedantic, but it's actually pretty important, since many folks filter what they see in three parts, accessible by the letters at the top)*[[Honorifics]]edit histories so that they don't see minor edits.

For more info, check this out: [[w:Help:Minor edit]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color= Edit summaries ="green" face=You can include edit summaries in the space directly above the "Save pageAdobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman" button at the bottom of an article you're editing>Fr. It's labeled Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red"Summary>talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color=" followed by a horizontal box. For more informationblack">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, see Times New Roman">('''[[HelpUser:EditingASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]. ''')</font></small> 21:05, May 12, 2009 (UTC)

== Biblical text ==*[http://wwwHi, I kinda thought that but the fact that I modify every 30 seconds I thought on the other hand people would be annoyed with me if the same article came up a zillion times in the Recent Changes list ..biblegatewayits not a problem .com/passage/?search=John%2019&version=9 here]. *I can do it the (pedantic) way :-) [http[User://www.biblegateway.com/ The Bible GatewayIxthis888|Vasiliki]] highly. 21:47, May 12, 2009 (UTC)

: Well, perhaps you might also want to consider proofreading and incorporating all your intended edits before you hit "save." :) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color= Bishops' article names "green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color=Style Manual"red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special: Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[OrthodoxWikiUser:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:Style Manual 11, May 13, 2009 (PeopleUTC)]].

== Inprogress template ==::With all respect (and I'm know you are cheeky enough to get it), when people give up their personal time to contribute and help it would be nice if their was a *tiny* amount of gratitude and courtesy for their assistance rather than this continual "nit-pick" at things that really are not sure whether you're aware that important! "proof reading" is valid in context of article (agree and I should do it more often! :P) however in context of a "timeline" its too hard ... I am amazed Angellight888 does so well but he is used to that whole --- pages of text in front of his face and probably can handle it much better than me. I also have to contend with "timing out" after a certain amount of time ... and losing anything in my edit altogether ... so, fair go Father - yesterday there was no such thing as Timeline of History for Britain and today there's a is) so I will be more obedient to the best of my abilities!! <-- aussie slang. [[TemplateUser:InprogressIxthis888|Vasiliki]]. 23:13, May 13, 2009 (UTC)

You could put that on the articles you are <u>actively</u> developing, which would (1) let others know that you::: '''re working on it, and (2) when you click the "What links here" link on the lower left menu, you can more easily keep track of articles you are working onTHANK YOU. ''' For more information on how it should be used, check out the [[Template talk:Inprogress|talk page]]There's some gratitude for you.

Oh::: (Now, since we're writing an encyclopedia, and another thingcan we please recommence the nit-picking?) &mdash;[[User: I find it helpful to separate ASDamick|<font size="Sources3.5" from which one gets paraphrased informationcolor="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman"References>Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color=" or red"Notes>talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color=" which cite specific quotations within an article, and black"External links>contribs</font>]] <font face=" which allow readers to get even more information which may not be included. The term Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman"External sources" confuses me a little>('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, May 14, since all sources have to be external. 2009 (UTC)

: The key word here is, of course, ::: '''activelyROFL/LOL''. Generally, you should only use [[Template:Inprogress]] on no more than one or two articles at a time that you're in (NO! No nit-picking while there is an InProgress tag) besides since this site works off "charity" then each editor makes up for the process weakness and deficiencies of changing significantlythe other (group hug) .. The idea . some of us have the template is to mark an article you're working on '''right now''' so that major edit conflicts don't occur when multiple editors try to work on an article simultaneouslytime ... the others (who have the smarts) can do the vacuuming ...[[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:22, May 14, 2009 (UTC)

== Style Manual Timeline in Britain==Please Hi again, I replied to your response on my talkpage; I suggest we both use the talkpage for the article itself to make sure it easier from now on. Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:04, May 26, 2009 (UTC):Vassiliki I revised the proposed outline for the eras; please have a look on the discussion page of the article. You were absolutely correct, the titles for the eras should reflect the history of the Church as much as possible. I think I have done this successfully for the eras up to 1485 AD - (have a look). After that time it is difficult to place a name on any period of British history as it relates to the Church, so we will have to go with the secular headings I think. Again, for the 20th century, if you're familiar can determine when each of the dioceses for the various Orthodox jurisdictions were established, we could create a sub-category with those dates. I think for now, we are good to go with the suggested outline. :) [[OrthodoxWikiUser:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 03:53, May 26, 2009 (UTC)==About Dates==I'm using the '''new calendar dates'''. This is a problem. In the site i gived to you, http:Style Manual //www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=8&month=2&trp=0 , ex: Sunday, February 8, 2009 / January 26, 2009 (PeopleChurch Calendar). January 26, 2009 is the now calendar date. The second date is good. No problem, I'm nervious too, :)[[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]]12:08, May 28, 2009 (UTC). Same thing with http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=7&month=1&trp=0 . Wednesday, January 7, 2009 / December 25, 2008 (Church Calendar). Is mention the Nativity feast and the 25 dec is the new date. 7 jan is the old date.:BTW. Take it easy. This lists are not an easy work. There are more then 4000 names (in all centuries) out there. We should take this step by step and with a lot of calm, peacefully and love for saints. [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]]

::I find do not know why you have the impresion that I am not taking it helpful to review it every so often, and find myself going to the easy? Especially when I have already said that putting this together requires a lot of work? especially since its a project i started ...??????? You bruise my ego :) [[Saint commemorationsUser:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] page quite a bit. 23:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC)

Also, when you are using an article as a source, please be clear about what you are quoting and what you are paraphrasing== Help Needed ... (tables) ==

Direct quotations need to be clearly marked with quotation marks; when whole paragraphs are quotedHi Vasiliki, they should be indented.

In terms of getting information about How you doing?I gave it a saint, what I usually do is check my three main sources of saints' lives:(OCA, GOARCH, and the ''Prologue of Ohrid'', all [[Usertry:Magda#External|linked from my page]]),

===Table 3, shrinks and, since so many saints columns have same widths when columns are already included in our calendar pagesnot populated, I often find a commemoration by searching OrthodoxWiki itself (often using google, adding ==={| cellspacing="3" |- valign="top"|width="50%" class="MainPageBG" style="border: 1px solid #c6c9ff; color: #000; background-color: #F1F1F1"|<div style="sitepadding:orthodoxwiki.org4em .9em .9em"> <h3>Seventeenth century (1601-1700):</h3>{| style="clear: both; text-align: left;" class="toccolours"|- ! width="100%" bgcolor="lightsteelblue" style="padding:0 0 0 50px; although " | <center>''Saints and major Orthodox personalities from the OCA pages are also good at that17th-century'' |-|<small> ''Introduction ... ''</small>|-| colspan="0" |{| style="background:none;" border="1" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="font-size: 75%;" float: right; margin: 10px;" ! width="75px" align="center" | Year! ! width="100px" align="center" | January! width="100px" align="center" | February ! width="100px" align="center" | March ! width="100px" align="center" | April ! width="100px" align="center" | May ! width="100px" align="center" | June ! width="100px" align="center" | July ! width="100px" align="center" | August ! width="100px" align="center" | September ! width="100px" align="center" | October ! width="100px" align="center" | November ! width="100px" align="center" | December |-| align="center" style="vertical-align: top;" | '''1622'''| align="left" | || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || - || - || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || [[December 17|17]] [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]]|}|}|}Hopes this helps - [[User:Andrew|Andy]] 16:42, May 29, 2009 (UTC){| style="font-size: 100%;" |}

== Google search ==I just go to Google and search for each, and look at the words on the top right::Results 1 - 10 of about [such-a-number] for [this search]. Then I do searches for whatever I want to compare, and look at the "such-a-number"s to see which is more prevalent. That's not to say that it's "correct," or more prevalent everywhere, just a general guide. If one search gives you a million, and another gives you ten, then you get a good idea of which one is more common. If one search gives you 1,940 and another gives you 1,950, it's more difficult. Best wishesWelcome back! —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 04:55, April 17, 2008 (UTC) ==VasilikiCopy==Is that ok, Hi Vasiliki? - [[Template:VasilikiCopy]] <br> --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 23:45, April 17, 2008 (UTC) :Ask Fr John to delete one of the two templates - [[Template:VasilikiCopy]] or [[Template:Ixthis888Copy]] - and add the one you keep to this page: [[OrthodoxWiki:Templates#Personal]]. The template must work fine on the images, because I already use it for... :-) --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 00:26, April 18, 2008 (UTC) == Problem with the "Edit" tab ==Vasiliki, Christos anesti! I can't seem to reproduce the problem you're describing&mdash;everything is working fine for me, both with Firefox and with Internet Explorer. The only thing I can guess is that perhaps you're hitting the wrong button on your mouse...? I honestly have no way to analyze what's happening. If there is some kind of problem with your account, then [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] is the only one who can fix it. My sysop powers are limited good to editing, not to account or site management. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:47, May 3, 2008 (UTC) (Future Note, the issue was an option under 'My Preferences' was selected that was causing the problem.) == Policies, etc. == A few points in response to your comment: *OrthodoxWiki policies are not in any sense "mine." I did happen to write the original version of many of them, but I don't have the authority to rule them as the consensus of the administration.*I added [[Template:Policy]] to the OrthodoxWiki FAQ, because it should have been there a long time ago. I often will take a look at policy pages in the midst of discussions which involve them, mainly to make sure that I understand and follow them myself! They sometimes do need a bit of correction. This has nothing to do with you, except in an indirect manner. I have never edited policy to "muscle" you or anyone else, though sometimes the administration has updated policies to reflect a problem that has occurred recently. I don't think any of them involved you.*What you ''most'' often see me updating after discussions with you (at least lately) has been [[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|my personal opinions]] about various matters on the wiki. They have no official status and are only my personal opinions. People are free to ignore them or follow them at will. No one is bound by anything I write there.*I agree with you that OrthodoxWiki should represent the official positions of ecclesiastical authorities where relevant. However, representation of them is never going to be exclusive or normative. They are simply going to be reported, like everything else. OrthodoxWiki by its very nature cannot ever be an official voice for any ecclesiastical authority. What happens when they argue amongst themselves (which they often do)? What happens when one of them is simply wrong (e.g., heretical)? Anyway, most of these bodies have their own websites to announce their own positions on various things. We're not going to do it for them.*There is no attempt on the part of the administration or the OrthodoxWiki community in general to produce a bias in favor of Westerners or Englishmen. There is a bias (if one can call it that!) toward the English language! That's because this is the English-language OrthodoxWiki. There are '''nine other language editions of OrthodoxWiki''' (including Greek) which also are "biased" in favor of their own languages. English is what we use here, because this encyclopedia is written in English. It is for readers of English. To attempt to make some other language dominate here would not only be profoundly useless, but outright silly. It would be a contradiction in terms.*Please forgive me, but I think a lot of your frustrations with the wiki come from a misunderstanding of the nature and process of producing an encyclopedia. This is not just a group-edited website. It is an encyclopedia, which involves lengthy discussions over what you may consider minutiae, such as terminology. It involves a genuine commitment to neutrality within certain clear limits.*I honestly am not sure what it is you expect from me and the rest of the OrthodoxWiki community. Your comments often make no sense to me at all. This is not to be insulting to you, but I really just don't understand how you can want to edit on OrthodoxWiki and yet remain so very frustrated by its most basic norms and assumptions. You are of course free to mount a campaign to change the wiki, but I have to say that I don't think it's likely to be successful.*I hope that you will continue to contribute on OrthodoxWiki, and I also hope that your frustrations can be resolved.&mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINKagain!]]''')</font></small> 13Welcome back :20, May 20, 2008 (UTC) A few more points:*I don't think you're stupid, nor have I ever even suggested that you were.*Your contributions to the wiki have been valuable.*There's nothing that I write that I wouldn't also be willing to say face to face. I take responsibility for all my words.*I honestly cannot predict when something I write is going to hurt your feelings. Forgive me. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophyAngellight 888|THINK!Angellight 888]]''')</font></small> 12:28, May 21, 2008 (UTC) == Reply to your request == I'll try to take a look in a few days, since I'm going to be doing some traveling and will be away from my computer. We also have our diocesan conference fast approaching (we're hosting it at the cathedral where I serve), so I will probably not have much wiki-time for a few weeks. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 11:20, June 20, 2008 (UTC) :I'm not really sure what you'd like to discuss about OrthodoxSource, or what your goals there are. However, you may want to be aware of the [[Template:Osource]]. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 17:49, June 21, 2008 (UTC) ::[[Template:Osource]] seems to be modeled after templates at Wikipedia. See similar boxes at the bottom of [[w:Wiktionary|this page]]. I think the intent is not to remove any links from OrthodoxWiki, but to let the reader know that there are additional materials, in a simplified, standardized manner. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 00:26, June 24, 2008 (UTC) == Temporary demonstrations == Please don't change articles in order to demonstrate things. Use a sandbox instead. Remember that changes you make are visible to the whole world, not just those whom you're showing something. It's best to keep things looking as complete as possible. Experimentation belongs outside existing articles. Thanks! &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:56, June 24, 2008 (UTC) == [[Template:Welcome]] == Hi! When you add [[Template:Welcome]] to someone's talk page, be sure to include your signature (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). After all, the standard welcome includes an offer to answer questions left on the welcomer's talk page, which would be hard for newcomers to identify simply from finding the message. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:3155, July 2928, 2008 2011 (UTC)