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And, by the way, ''refute'' can mean "to prove wrong by argument or evidence," but it also can mean "to deny the truth or accuracy of." Just because one offers a refutation does not necessarily mean one is correct. ''Rebut'' may well be better, though. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:26, May 20, 2008 (UTC)
: Really ... proving one has the biggest dictionary ... boys will be boys ... [[User:Seminarist|Seminarist]] 06:21, May 20, 2008 (UTC)
== Church Formal Position ==
I also want to point out that I am not a political person who has certain 'bias' towards any particular church and even though I am Greek please do not go assuming everytime I post an opinion that I am a pro-Nationalist Greek and respond in a manner that clearly shows that that is what you think I am thinking. I dont have agendas I am not smart enough for that ... I just am interested in reminding people of humility and humility includes not going overboard on certain topics that are not within our right to 'define'. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 02:03, May 20, 2008 (UTC)
==Common Sense, or Anti-Greek Madness??==
Fr Andrew, I can't accept this POV hostility towards Greek Orthodoxy.
Let's look at the issue: these Churches are all Greek Orthodox Churches - '''they all call themselves "Greek Orthodox"'''. Even the Patriarchate of Antioch is the ''Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch''. This is really simple - I can't believe that that you're wriggling to avoid this with bogus objections.
Let's be clear on the facts:
# It is not 'obscure' to call a Church by its own name.
# The title 'Greek Orthodox' is not a 'specialist' title - it is the title these Churches put on press-releases, and it is the title they are routinely accorded in the media.
Look at the rationality of the position you're maintaining: you are saying that these Churches should not be called 'Greek Orthodox Churches' - even though (a) they call themselves 'Greek Orthodox'; and even though (b) the media calls them 'Greek Orthodox'. You're saying that, whilst the title 'Greek Orthodox' is good enough for the Churches themselves, and whilst it's good enough for the media, it's not good enough for Orthodoxwiki!
Tell me you've not got a POV agenda!
I don't agree with changing the scope of the article. The article just needs to be given a proper name, not rewritten. It's obvious that the article is about Greek Orthodox responses to OCA autocephaly; it's obvious that there is no more suitable collective title for these Churches than 'Greek Orthodox'; and therefore it's obvious that the title should be 'Greek Orthodox responses to OCA autocephaly'... Surely we can finally agree on that?? [[User:Seminarist|Seminarist]] 06:21, May 20, 2008 (UTC)

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