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Antiochians in the Philippines
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:31, June 8, 2007 (PDT)
First, I do not speak for the ancient Antiochian Orthodox Church nor for its Australian archdiocese.
Would you want the family names? The Syrian and Lebanese Consulates in Manila confirmed that after the opening of foreign trade, a number of Ottoman subjects from the Greater Syria province arrived in the Philippines including the Sa-id and Saliba (which became Filipino-nized into "Soliba") families. The Sa-id family has the records to show that their ancestors worked on British ships in the Philippines.
Furthermore, I deleted the references because it is too politicized and shows blind papal-cesaerism, not to mention its highly inaccurate and anti-Arab. The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself ''the'' Orthodox Church of the Philippines because it is not legally entitled to do so, check the SEC registration again. Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so. According to the 1, 2, 3 Ecumenical Councils, Antioch is entitled to was given the jurisdictional territory of "All the "East" which means all of Asia and for this reason Antioch had parishes in China, Indonesia, and India as early as the 2nd century in the year of our Lord. It is also known that the Patriarchate of Moscow still considers the Philippines its missionary area because of its early presence here and also a major concern has arisen with the in Manila. However, many Orthodox Christians in Australia have been hearing more stories coming out of Indonesia about the Greek Orthodox Church and how 3/4 plight of the Indonesian Orthodox Christians --who suffered greatly and are now being cared for under the omphorion ROCOR--and are sensitive to issues of race, colonialism, and the ROCORrecent uncanonical actions taken by Constantinople in Great Britain. HoweverIn addition, all Godthere have been complaints made by certain non-fearing Russian slavs in Manila about the lack of sacramental services to certain hierarchs. So there is considerable pressure to establish other jurisdictions in the Philippines and Antiochian Orthodox it is likely in Australia share a general sorrow for what has happened the near future, the Filipinos and other nationalities will have more options and more access to Orthodoxy than the type of Helenic Orthodoxy that is in SE Asia after stories from Indonesia have emergedManila. Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registrationsince you specifically mention it, you would have noticed that the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East. That is why Chris Gain is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas. The Antiochian Archdiocese was as uninformed as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this giftand the Archdiocese only found out about this recently.
May God grant you guidance and wisdom to refrain from attacking the ancient See of Antioch , the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia, and for showing more careful and loving discernment in your writing about Orthodoxy in the Philippines.
--Marcus
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