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=="Jurisdictionalism" section==
I've commented out this section. Here's the text as it was:
 
:Up until the 1960s, the Russian Orthodox Church held canonical jurisdiction over the Hawaiian Islands. After the 1960s, three seperate Orthodox jurisdictions established themselves in the Islands; Greek, Serbian, and OCA. At one point there were as many as five different Orthodox jurisdictions in the Hawaiian Islands. For more information on the sin of Jurisdictionalism, [http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/general/gen_america.aspx click here], and [http://members5.boardhost.com/STANDREWHOUSE/msg/1153963172.top here].
 
The problem with this wording is that it presumes a certain POV (i.e., Russian). It's certainly not the case that the other Orthodox churches regarded Hawaii as canonically belonging to Russia. Perhaps this section could be worded simply to state that up until the 1960s, the Russians had the only presence there, regarding the territory as canonically theirs, then other jurisdictions established a presence there. Regarding the "sin of Jurisdictionalism," a link to the [[diaspora]] article should suffice.
 
Thoughts? &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 17:50, May 30, 2007 (PDT)
 
== Good idea ==
Ang.
 =="Jurisdictionalism" section==I've commented out this section. Here: Well, it's the text as it was: :Up until the 1960snot really a question of "political correctness, " but rather of keeping to the Russian Orthodox Church held canonical jurisdiction over the Hawaiian Islands. After the 1960s, three seperate Orthodox jurisdictions established themselves in the Islands; Greek, Serbian, and OCA. At one point there were as many as five different Orthodox jurisdictions in the Hawaiian Islands. For more information on the sin of Jurisdictionalism, [http[OW://www.orthodoxinfo.com/general/gen_america.aspx click hereNPOV|neutrality]], appropriate for an encyclopedia and in keeping with [[httpOW://members5.boardhost.com/STANDREWHOUSE/msg/1153963172.top hereNPOV|OrthodoxWiki policy]]. The problem with this wording is that it presumes a certain POV (i.e., Russian). It's certainly not the case that the other Orthodox churches regarded Hawaii as canonically belonging to Russia. Perhaps this section could be worded simply better now, though I'm going to state that up until replace the 1960s, external links with internal ones (which is also the Russians had the only presence there, regarding the territory as canonically theirs, then other jurisdictions established a presence there. Regarding the "sin of Jurisdictionalism," a link to the [[diaspora]] article should sufficepreference).  Thoughts? &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 1718:5013, May 30, 2007 (PDT)
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