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Which filioque?
The second issue is the "dogmatic" one. Is the teaaching of the filioque orthodox or heterodox? That depends upon which understanding of the fiolioque one has in mind. A distinction must be made between the heterodox filioque (the teaching that the Spirit is dependent upon the Son as well as the Father for his origin) and the orthodox filioque (the perfectly Orthodox idea that the Spirit proceeds from the Father through (''dia'') the Son. The latter was taught by St Maximos Confessor and is Orthodox. The former is definitely heterodox. I would shy away from terming it "heretical" in that no council has defined it as such. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 10:44, July 28, 2006 (CDT)
:Please excuse me for asking You this rather silly question, but ... I'm a ''little'' bit confused here: What, ''then'', is "heterodox, (yet not heretical)"? (Do You mean by this an opinion? -- if so, then St. Maximos the Confessor is ''heterodox'', because, in the Church, to say that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father through the Son is only a theologumenon ... or not). [[User:Luci83ro|Luci83ro]] 12:10, July 28, 2006 (CDT)
 
:: I think the distinct that Fr. Lev is making is that something which is [[heterodoxy|heterodox]] is definitely against the Orthodox faith, whereas something which is [[heresy|heretical]] has been subject to an explicit synodal condemnation of anathema.
 
:: A [[theologoumenon]] is a theological opinion which is not contrary to the Orthodox faith but has not been dogmatized by the Church. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 13:22, July 28, 2006 (CDT)
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