User talk:Patriarchanthony

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I ask that you remove my account from your wiki. --[[User:Patriarchanthony|Patriarchanthony]] 14:22, December 2, 2005 (CST)
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Clean Start. Thank you all very much.
  
:Unfortunately, accounts can't be deleted (as you know if you're administering MediaWiki), but we can block it. I trust that isn't necessary though. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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== Vandals ==
  
It depends on your Administrators. If they had an issue with me they should have address me personally. Instead they took it to public forum and that is outragous. I have removed all content that was from your websites and would like to remind you that the content here on Orthodoxwiki was listed as released under GNU FDL. But I see from your admins this license display is false. --[[User:Patriarchanthony|Patriarchanthony]] 14:31, December 2, 2005 (CST)
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Hi Patriarchanthony,
  
::Hmm... well, the discussion on [[OrthodoxWiki:Administrators]] was removed, but I do think a public response to a public site is appropriate. Yes, our "original" content is all GFDL, but please note GFDL does require attribution, at least to OrthodoxWiki. Please read the GFDL license for details. 
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Thanks for your help on the recent vandal attack!
  
::Let me say too that we (and the Copts) aren't persecuting you out of spite, as you seem to imagine. We do not believe that someone can just start an Orthodox church on their own. Using these titles for your group, and the trappings of Orthodox, means to us that you are being deceptive in your claims. That's why we have to put the ''independent'' notice on your page -- otherwise we would sacrifice our own credibility. I hope you can understand this. I don't know why you want to create your own group, what your issues are. But to us being "Orthodox" means something - it has a definite shape and a canonical embodiment. Hope that helps, [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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[[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]] 19:02, December 11, 2005 (CST)
  
I do not believe that we claim to be orthodox anywhere on our site anymore. We have not since the encounter with the copts. So that is a mute point. In fact, we have it written all over our site that we are independent from the mainstream churches, so that makes the claim of deception a mute point. So yes it does appear to be persecution rather than mere informational.
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:ok! [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
  
:I respect that you put on your homepage "Note: We are not Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Episcopalian or any other form of Mainstream Church." However, you must understand that your claim to be "Ancient and Apostolic" and to belong to the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" is a big problem, when it is clear that none of these are the case. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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Thanks again! Looks like Magda got to this one before I did, but leaving a note on our user talk pages is a great way to go since that notifies us right away by email. Good job! {{User:FrJohn/sig}}
  
There is no way to win. Any name we chose would be used by the orthodox to bash us over the head. We refuse to change our church's name or any of our church's doctrine to suit the orthodox. As in the past, I am sure that someone here will be bold enough to threaten us with lawsuits, to which I say go for it. We are the Ancient Apostolic Communion and last time I checked no one had a trademark or copyright to those words or to the name itself. This will be my last posting here and I will advise all the Independent Movement members that they are not welcome here. You see, we must also protect our people as well. --[[User:Patriarchanthony|Patriarchanthony]] 15:35, December 2, 2005 (CST)
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== vandals 8Jan06 ==
  
: You're not being threatened with a lawsuit, and your religious practices aren't being threatened, eitherYou're simply being asked to supply attribution (i.e., indicate a source) where you export our material to another site. You're also merely having a notice put on your user page here indicating that you belong to a different group. Are any of these things really too much to ask?  {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 17:34, December 2, 2005 (CST)
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Thanks for the heads-up, and for your helpAs Magda said previously, don't they have anything else to do?  -- {{User:Pistevo/sig}} 01:11, January 8, 2006 (CST)
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:Thanks for your work! What amazing hostility people have that gets voiced over the internet! [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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==User page==
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I'd like to keep the notice on your user page so there's no confusion, but it does look rather sparse! If you want, why don't you put a little bit on there about yourself, maybe some stuff about why you were driven to create the independent organizations in the first place. Also, maybe a little bit about your interest in Orthodoxy and this wiki, etc. THanks, [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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:I think this was kind of what you were looking for. If you don't mind I would like to upload a pic of myself, but I submit to your wisdom in that matter. --[[User:Patriarchanthony|Patriarchanthony]] 16:59, January 8, 2006 (CST)
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::Thanks, that's great. It gives you some more personality here -- rather than just a (mostly) blank page. Feel free to ul a pic. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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:::Thanks. I uploaded it with a few templates that help with the copyright and independent stuff...LOL. --[[User:Patriarchanthony|Patriarchanthony]] 17:35, January 8, 2006 (CST)
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::::I appreciate it. I've added your pic also to the [[OrthodoxWiki:User_gallery#Other_Users|User gallery]]. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]

Latest revision as of 15:54, January 8, 2006

Clean Start. Thank you all very much.

Vandals

Hi Patriarchanthony,

Thanks for your help on the recent vandal attack!

Fr. John 19:02, December 11, 2005 (CST)

ok! Fr. John

Thanks again! Looks like Magda got to this one before I did, but leaving a note on our user talk pages is a great way to go since that notifies us right away by email. Good job! — FrJohn (talk)

vandals 8Jan06

Thanks for the heads-up, and for your help. As Magda said previously, don't they have anything else to do? -- — by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 01:11, January 8, 2006 (CST)

Thanks for your work! What amazing hostility people have that gets voiced over the internet! Fr. John

User page

I'd like to keep the notice on your user page so there's no confusion, but it does look rather sparse! If you want, why don't you put a little bit on there about yourself, maybe some stuff about why you were driven to create the independent organizations in the first place. Also, maybe a little bit about your interest in Orthodoxy and this wiki, etc. THanks, Fr. John

I think this was kind of what you were looking for. If you don't mind I would like to upload a pic of myself, but I submit to your wisdom in that matter. --Patriarchanthony 16:59, January 8, 2006 (CST)
Thanks, that's great. It gives you some more personality here -- rather than just a (mostly) blank page. Feel free to ul a pic. Fr. John
Thanks. I uploaded it with a few templates that help with the copyright and independent stuff...LOL. --Patriarchanthony 17:35, January 8, 2006 (CST)
I appreciate it. I've added your pic also to the User gallery. Fr. John
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