User talk:Ixthis888

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Brevity and "Name" sections

Hello! Thanks for all the contributions you've recently been making. I have a concern about the "Name" sections you've been adding to various saints' articles -- they're often being put right at the beginning, before the "Life" sections, which indicates that the meaning of the saint's name is of more encyclopedic importance than his life. Additionally, they're often moderately extensive sections, a paragraph or more.

I think if you'll take a look at encyclopedias such as the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church or the Blackwell Dictionary of Eastern Christianity, or any other encyclopedia, you'll find that etymology usually only takes up perhaps a few words in parentheses after the initial name of the entry, e.g., Stephen the Protomartyr (Gk. stephanos, "crown").

I'd strongly recommend that you take a look at these stylistically standard sources when editing articles to get a sense of the standards that we've been using on OrthodoxWiki for the past few years. Thanks! —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs 10:40, January 17, 2008 (PST)

Hello, thanks for the entry on the Taxiarchis icon; I read a longer account of this once but cannot locate it at present; regarding the title of the Mantamados article, as far as I am aware the name of the icon is primarily “Taxiarchis” (Archangel) Michael" but the main entry here is listed as that of the village; and you have included two titles for this entry; if the name of the village is commonly associated with the icon, then I suggest perhaps the title be moved to "Archangel Michael of Mantamados (Taxiarchis)". Just a suggestion for clarity. This would put the title more in line with other entries for key icons, such as those of the Theotokos, and also include the other common reference to this icon, the Taxiarchis. Cheers. —Chris ^talk 9:10, January 20, 2008 (EST)

Hi Chris, yes the area is Mantammados but most Greek people actually name the icon as "Mantammados" as a stand alone nickname or pet reference ... We do not usually refer to the entire phrase Archangel Michael Taxiarchis of Mantammados ... its a 'nickname'. Just like the "Panormitis" icon (my article tomorrow) ... we dont call the icon ..the Taxiarchis of Symi the Panormitis, he is more commonly referred to as 'Panormitis' and known this way. Since I am not here on Orthodwiki long enough, do you still suggest that the article be moved anyway? Also, I dont know how to move the article ... I am happy either way, as long as the information is available for people to learn ... -- Vasiliki 18:35, January 20, 2008 (PST)

Australian monasteries

Vasiliki, feel free to send me an e-mail with them if you want, but I make no claim to being the editor-in-chief of Australasian articles - that's just my major interest and, well, where I live. As an aside, I'm fairly sure I met the sister you're talking about at last year's National Youth Conference in Brisbane.

The biggest thing missing from the Gorgoepikoos article is a history of its formation, closely followed by future plans for development, and perhaps a personal history of Mother Kallistheni - the Pantanassa Monastery article and the article on Elder Stephanos is the best example for what I would look for if I was doing it - but, the beauty of Orthodox Wiki (and all wiki encyclopedias) is that collectively we make better articles. BTW, even if a complete botch is made, it's not hard to look at the page history - feel free and encouraged to edit profusely! :D — edited by Pιsτévο ^{talk complaints} at 17:04, January 20, 2008 (PST)

Hi Pistevo, I believe you have met his sister then, since she was at the Brisbane conference :-) As for the Geelong Monastery, when next I visit, I will plan to sit down with Mother Kalistheni and get her blessing for this information. I know the story but I dont want to upload it without her blessing. BTW, how do I email you? Vasiliki 17:12, January 20, 2008 (PST)

Go to my user page, and down the left (under toolbox), there should be an 'e-mail this user' line - just click on that. But, the best way is to just upload them onto OW and put them straight on the page. — edited by Pιsτévο ^{talk complaints}

Image permission

Do we have permission to use this icon of St. Phanourious? It appears to be taken from here, where it is used in this article. —magda (talk) 11:31, January 31, 2008 (PST)

Hi, I thought copyright is attributed to an image taken by someones own camera ... so, you need their permission. This image of the saint is taken from www.imr.gr but it does not belong to them since its been around for a very long time on the web. I thought if an image has been around for a while on the web its ok to use... another thing, most of my other images are scans of my own personal pictures at home. Should we take this image off the page then? -- Vasiliki 13:44, January 31, 2008 (PST)

If you did not take this picture with your own camera and put it online, or did not specifically get permission to use the image you found online, OrthodoxWiki does not have permission to use it. If you have obtained permission to use this image from the original website, you can add that information to the image page on OrthodoxWiki. See Help:Image licenses for more information. —magda (talk) 14:27, January 31, 2008 (PST)

Hi, I read through the Wikipedia article on Fair Use. It says that you may use copyrighted images of the Intranet provided they are reporduced as Thumbnails at 80 x 200 pixels. -- 14:47, January 31, 2008 (PST)

The Wikipedia article on fair use does mention the use of thumbnails, but the linked article on thumbnails indicates that the court case was specific to Internet search engines. The current use of the image is larger than 80x200 pixels. The beginning of the OrthodoxWiki Help:Image licenses page states: "All images should be tagged with information about their copyright/licensing status and source. It is illegal for us to use images on OrthodoxWiki for which we do not have permission or which are not usable under the fair use provisions of United States copyright law.Images which do not conform to policy are subject to immediate deletion. Merely noting the image's source is not enough. There must be verifiable permission given for OrthodoxWiki's use of the image. It is your responsibility as the uploader to ensure that the image may be used and is tagged as properly licensed." I know it's a huge pain, but if we keep track of these things as we upload images, it's much better for OrthodoxWiki to be as correct as we can. Thank you for your help in taking responsibility for the files you upload. —magda (talk) 15:49, January 31, 2008 (PST)

External links

I am very much enjoying reading your contributions. I did want to point out that when you add an external link, I find that there is an extra / added to the end, which doesn't let the link work. Copying the URL directly from the browser is often the best way to get a link and make sure it works. —magda (talk) 20:17, February 11, 2008 (PST)

Hi, its nice to get some positive feedback cause sometimes I feel like I have been a nuisance rather than a help ... I tend to upload lots of little articles and then complete them later. When I take time I can put together a reasonable article, I think, but I am still not very aware of all the editing tricks so its really good having you guys go in and proof read - it is such an amazing experience to revisit an article after someone has added various links, reworded etc ... it makes an article look real! Thanks. -- Vasiliki 20:22, February 11, 2008 (PST)

As long as you're genuinely willing to learn, adapt and work here, you don't have to worry about being a nuisance. If folks comment on your editing, they're just trying to save you (and themselves!) work, to raise the quality of editing being done here. —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 11:43, February 12, 2008 (PST)

"Quick to Hear" icon

I don't know much about the icon other than that it originally came from Mt. Athos. Perhaps you may wish to contact St. Tikhon's to ask them. —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 04:18, February 13, 2008 (PST)

LOL

So what tipped you off? — by Pιsτévο ^{talk complaints} at 17:59, February 17, 2008 (PST)

I was bored and clicked on a link on your User page ... I feel bad because I sorta have been replying to you as if you were female ...so, like ... sorry! (ouch) ... oh, there was one comment I was going to make last week to refer to you, me and Magda as 'sisters' - as a joke. Thank God i didnt! LOL -- Vasiliki 18:03, February 17, 2008 (PST)

Helpful links

Before I head out for the night, I thought I would pass along some links I find helpful:

• Orthodox Research Institute listing of hierarchs (in three parts, accessible by the letters at the top)
• Honorifics

And I wanted to remind you that usually we don't include contact information on the OrthodoxWiki articles, especially if that information is included in an external link. That way, we don't have to worry about updating or mistyping the information: the link does all the work for us. Have fun! —magda (talk) 21:53, February 18, 2008 (PST)

Thanks for that, I already have used the OrthodoxResearchInstitute for these Metropolis regions ...but the honourific I wasnt aware of. -- Vasiliki 22:01, February 18, 2008 (PST)

Edit summaries

You can include edit summaries in the space directly above the "Save page" button at the bottom of an article you're editing. It's labeled "Summary:" followed by a horizontal box. For more information, see Help:Editing. —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 16:48, February 19, 2008 (PST)

Panagia Evangelistria - Tinos

Hi Vasiliki! Geia sou. Since you have done so many pages on Panagia, I was wondering if you had heard of the wonderworking icon of Panagia Evangelistria on Tinos island, if so, it would be great to have any information on that very famous icon. I learned recently that at some point in the recent past, the Roman Catholic priests on the island would join in the yearly procession of the icon along with the Orthodox (not nowadays however). Anyhow just thought I would ask and suggest the idea to you. Cheers, Chris 22:38, February 20, 2008 (EST)

Hi Chris, Yes I HAVE heard of the Panagia of Tinos and yes I was considering doing an article on her at some point. I was adding more common icons first then the more famous ones in Greece ... the story behind that article is amazing and the monastery itself has the most absolutely amazing mosaic paving ... there is also a tradition that exists to this very day if you do a day trip. You will see hundreds of people climbing the hill up to the church on their hands and knees (and if you see how long this is you will truly be amazed! the other thing is, the icon is TINY! When u go in to the church to look at it ...you get SO lost in all the gold ...that you can easily miss this 20xm x 20cm icon ...its teeeeny! -- Vasiliki 19:47, February 20, 2008 (PST)

Bishops' article names

Regarding your question to Magda, this is already covered and set in the official Style Manual: OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (People).

If a bishop's see changes, then the article is moved to the new title, which not only correctly then uses the new title but provides a redirect from the old one, which is useful for those doing research who may not know about the change. —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 17:43, February 21, 2008 (PST)

Inprogress template

I'm not sure whether you're aware that there's a Template:Inprogress. You could put that on the articles you are actively developing, which would (1) let others know that you're working on it, and (2) when you click the "What links here" link on the lower left menu, you can more easily keep track of articles you are working on. For more information on how it should be used, check out the talk page. Oh, and another thing: I find it helpful to separate "Sources" from which one gets paraphrased information, "References" or "Notes" which cite specific quotations within an article, and "External links" which allow readers to get even more information which may not be included. The term "External sources" confuses me a little, since all sources have to be external. —magda (talk) 07:51, February 25, 2008 (PST)

The key word here is, of course, actively. Generally, you should only use Template:Inprogress on no more than one or two articles at a time that you're in the process of changing significantly. The idea of the template is to mark an article you're working on right now so that major edit conflicts don't occur when multiple editors try to work on an article simultaneously.

All these one-liner articles—are they really about to expand significantly? My suggestion is that if all there is to say about "Metropolis of Wherever" is that it is a diocese of a particular church, then it should simply remain in a list in the main article about that church. It's disappointing to find an article supposedly about a particular subject and discover it's no more than a single line. —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 18:55, March 4, 2008 (PST)

Hi, yes they are. I am working on these ...the only reason I have been quiet last 2 days is bc I have been bombarded at work (Budget report due). Give me a chance :-) I would love it if others added information in to these articles also because the only thing that OrthWiki manages really well is orthodox information pertaining to America and not the rest of the world ... I cant help with Russia or Serbia or other places but Greece is easy since I can translate from the greek ...so, want me to hold off on these articles? Vasiliki 19:00, March 4, 2008 (PST)

Familytree template

Vasiliki, Hi, I noticed a request for help in the change comments, for a update to the sandbox. It looked like you were using templates that ORTHODOX WIKI does not have. (Template:familytree, Template:Familytree/start, Template:Familytree/start, Template:Familytree/end, and Template:Familytree/step2). I figured that the templates were on other WIKI’s so I checked WIKIPEDIA (w:Template:familytree, w:Template:Familytree/start, w:Template:Familytree/start, w:Template:Familytree/end, and w:Template:Familytree/step2). . Since they were there, I copied your sandbox entry into a sandbox over there, it worked fine (sort of). So I copied the templates here to see if they will work here, and found out that they do not work the same here. They will produce all the HTML table commands that will make the table, but it does not execute the commands. (although if you cut and past the commands, they do work here.) That’s as far as I researched this, it may be that I am missing something. - Andrew 07:49, February 28, 2008 (PST)

I was looking up something Medical on Wiki and I saw them use this template and I thought the concept was great so I thought I would test it out on OrthodoxWiki but I dont have experience with this and especially with Templates. So, I was hoping that someone who has experience with Template could advise how to set that 'family Tree' diagram template up into OrthodoxWiki! Its not a super urgent thing so I hope no one puts it as a high priority. I was just testing it out for curiosity more than anything. Vasiliki 13:49, February 28, 2008 (PST)