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== Brevity and "Name" sections ==
 
  
Hello!  Thanks for all the contributions you've recently been making. I have a concern about the "Name" sections you've been adding to various saints' articles -- they're often being put right at the beginning, before the "Life" sections, which indicates that the meaning of the saint's name is of more encyclopedic importance than his lifeAdditionally, they're often moderately extensive sections, a paragraph or more.
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==Note==
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Vasiliki, thank you for your kind note. I tend to be history buff - so I like to look behind the fluff of tradition (small t) get a picture of what "really" happened. Bill/Basil/Vasily[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 20:31, January 20, 2009 (UTC)
  
I think if you'll take a look at encyclopedias such as the ''Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church'' or the ''Blackwell Dictionary of Eastern Christianity'', or any other encyclopedia, you'll find that etymology usually only takes up perhaps a few words in parentheses after the initial name of the entry, e.g., '''''Stephen the Protomartyr''' (Gk. ''stephanos'', "crown")'''''.
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== Minor edits ==
  
I'd strongly recommend that you take a look at these stylistically standard sources when editing articles to get a sense of the standards that we've been using on OrthodoxWiki for the past few years.  Thanks!  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 10:40, January 17, 2008 (PST)
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I've noticed you've recently made a huge number of edits all marked as "minor." Please remember that "minor" edits are things like fixing spelling, minor formatting issues, fixing links, etc.  Adding content is almost never minor. This may seem pedantic, but it's actually pretty important, since many folks filter what they see in edit histories so that they don't see minor edits.
: Hello, thanks for the entry on the Taxiarchis icon; I read a longer account of this once but cannot locate it at present; regarding the title of the [[Mantamados]] article, as far as I am aware the name of the icon is primarily ''“Taxiarchis” (Archangel) Michael"'' but the main entry here is listed as that of the village; and you have included two titles for this entry; if the name of the village is commonly associated with the icon, then I suggest perhaps the title be moved to "'''Archangel Michael of Mantamados (Taxiarchis)'''". Just a suggestion for clarity. This would put the title more in line with other entries for key icons, such as those of the Theotokos, and also include the other common reference to this icon, the '''''Taxiarchis'''''. Cheers. &mdash;[[User:Angellight_888|<font size="3.5" color="blue" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Chris</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Angellight_888|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> 9:10, January 20, 2008 (EST)
 
  
:: Hi Chris, yes the area is Mantammados but most Greek people actually name the icon as "Mantammados" as a stand alone nickname or pet reference ... We do not usually refer to the entire phrase Archangel Michael Taxiarchis of Mantammados ... its a 'nickname'. Just like the "Panormitis" icon (my article tomorrow) ... we dont call the icon ..the Taxiarchis of Symi the Panormitis, he is more commonly referred to as 'Panormitis' and known this way. Since I am not here on Orthodwiki long enough, do you still suggest that the article be moved anyway? Also, I dont know how to move the article ... I am happy either way, as long as the information is available for people to learn ... -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 18:35, January 20, 2008 (PST)
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For more info, check this out:  [[w:Help:Minor edit]].  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:05, May 12, 2009 (UTC)
  
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Hi, I kinda thought that but the fact that I modify every 30 seconds I thought on the other hand people would be annoyed with me if the same article came up a zillion times in the Recent Changes list ..its not a problem ..I can do it the (pedantic) way :-) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 21:47, May 12, 2009 (UTC)
  
== Helpful links ==
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: Well, perhaps you might also want to consider proofreading and incorporating all your intended edits before you hit "save."  :)  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:11, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
*[http://orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/resources/hierarchs/alphabetical.htm Orthodox Research Institute] listing of hierarchs (in three parts, accessible by the letters at the top)
 
*[[Honorifics]]
 
  
== Edit summaries ==
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::With all respect (and I know you are cheeky enough to get it), when people give up their personal time to contribute and help it would be nice if their was a *tiny* amount of gratitude and courtesy for their assistance rather than this continual "nit-pick" at things that really are not that important! "proof reading" is valid in context of article (agree and I should do it more often! :P) however in context of a "timeline" its too hard ... I am amazed Angellight888 does so well but he is used to that whole --- pages of text in front of his face and probably can handle it much better than me. I also have to contend with "timing out" after a certain amount of time ... and losing anything in my edit altogether ... so, fair go Father - yesterday there was no such thing as Timeline of History for Britain and today there is) so I will be more obedient to the best of my abilities!! <-- aussie slang. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:13, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
You can include edit summaries in the space directly above the "Save page" button at the bottom of an article you're editing. It's labeled "Summary:" followed by a horizontal box. For more information, see [[Help:Editing]]
 
  
== Biblical text ==
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::: '''THANK YOU.''' There's some gratitude for you.
*[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2019&version=9 here].   
 
*[http://www.biblegateway.com/ The Bible Gateway] highly.  
 
  
== Bishops' article names ==
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::: (Now, since we're writing an encyclopedia, can we please recommence the nit-picking?)  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, May 14, 2009 (UTC)
Style Manual: [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (People)]].
 
  
== Inprogress template ==
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:::: '''ROFL/LOL''' (NO! No nit-picking while there is an InProgress tag) besides since this site works off "charity" then each editor makes up for the weakness and deficiencies of the other (group hug) ... some of us have the time ... the others (who have the smarts) can do the vacuuming ... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:22, May 14, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether you're aware that there's a [[Template:Inprogress]]
 
  
You could put that on the articles you are <u>actively</u> developing, which would (1) let others know that you're working on it, and (2) when you click the "What links here" link on the lower left menu, you can more easily keep track of articles you are working on. For more information on how it should be used, check out the [[Template talk:Inprogress|talk page]].
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==Timeline in Britain==
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Hi again, I replied to your response on my talkpage; I suggest we both use the talkpage for the article itself to make it easier from now on. Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:04, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
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:Vassiliki I revised the proposed outline for the eras; please have a look on the discussion page of the article. You were absolutely correct, the titles for the eras should reflect the history of the Church as much as possible. I think I have done this successfully for the eras up to 1485 AD - (have a look). After that time it is difficult to place a name on any period of British history as it relates to the Church, so we will have to go with the secular headings I think. Again, for the 20th century, if you can determine when each of the dioceses for the various Orthodox jurisdictions were established, we could create a sub-category with those dates. I think for now, we are good to go with the suggested outline. :) [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 03:53, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
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==About Dates==
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I'm using the '''new calendar dates'''.
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This is a problem. In the site i gived to you, http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=8&month=2&trp=0 , ex: Sunday, February 8, 2009 / January 26, 2009 (Church Calendar). January 26, 2009  is the now calendar date. The second date is good. No problem, I'm nervious too, :) [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]] 12:08, May 28, 2009 (UTC). Same thing with http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=7&month=1&trp=0 . Wednesday, January 7, 2009 / December 25, 2008 (Church Calendar). Is mention the Nativity feast and the 25 dec is the new date. 7 jan is the old date.
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:BTW. Take it easy. This lists are not an easy work. There are more then 4000 names (in all centuries) out there. We should take this step by step and with a lot of calm, peacefully and love for saints. [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]]
  
Oh, and another thing: I find it helpful to separate "Sources" from which one gets paraphrased information, "References" or "Notes" which cite specific quotations within an article, and "External links" which allow readers to get even more information which may not be included.  The term "External sources" confuses me a little, since all sources have to be external.   
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::I do not know why you have the impresion that I am not taking it easy? Especially when I have already said that putting this together requires a lot of work? especially since its a project i started ...??????? You bruise my ego :) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC)
  
: The key word here is, of course, ''actively''. Generally, you should only use [[Template:Inprogress]] on no more than one or two articles at a time that you're in the process of changing significantlyThe idea of the template is to mark an article you're working on '''right now''' so that major edit conflicts don't occur when multiple editors try to work on an article simultaneously.
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== Help Needed ...  (tables) ==
  
== Style Manual ==
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Hi Vasiliki,  
Please make sure you're familiar with the [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (People)]].  I find it helpful to review it every so often, and find myself going to the [[Saint commemorations]] page quite a bit.  Also, when you are using an article as a source, please be clear about what you are quoting and what you are paraphrasing.  Direct quotations need to be clearly marked with quotation marks; when whole paragraphs are quoted, they should be indented.  In terms of getting information about a saint, what I usually do is check my three main sources of saints' lives (OCA, GOARCH, and the ''Prologue of Ohrid'', all [[User:Magda#External|linked from my page]]), and, since so many saints are already included in our calendar pages, I often find a commemoration by searching OrthodoxWiki itself (often using google, adding "site:orthodoxwiki.org"); although the OCA pages are also good at that.  I hope these hints help you as you continue to add so much to OrthodoxWiki. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 08:22, March 20, 2008 (PDT)
 
  
== Google search ==
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How you doing?
I just go to Google and search for each, and look at the words on the top right:
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I gave it a try:
:Results 1 - 10 of about [such-a-number] for [this search].
 
Then I do searches for whatever I want to compare, and look at the "such-a-number"s to see which is more prevalent.  That's not to say that it's "correct," or more prevalent everywhere, just a general guide.  If one search gives you a million, and another gives you ten, then you get a good idea of which one is more common.  If one search gives you 1,940 and another gives you 1,950, it's more difficult. Best wishes! —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 04:55, April 17, 2008 (UTC)
 
  
==VasilikiCopy==
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===Table 3, shrinks and columns have same widths when columns are not populated,===
Is that ok, Vasiliki? - [[Template:VasilikiCopy]] <br> --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 23:45, April 17, 2008 (UTC)
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{| cellspacing="3"
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|- valign="top"
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<div style="padding: .4em .9em .9em">
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<h3>Seventeenth century (1601-1700):</h3>
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{| style="clear: both; text-align: left;" class="toccolours"
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! width="100%" bgcolor="lightsteelblue" style="padding:0 0 0 50px;" | <center>''Saints and major Orthodox personalities from the 17th-century'' 
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|<small> ''Introduction ...''</small>
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{| style="background:none;" border="1" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="font-size: 75%;" float: right; margin: 10px;" 
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! width="75px" align="center" | Year
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! width="100px" align="center" | January
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! width="100px" align="center" | February
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! width="100px" align="center" | March
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! width="100px" align="center" | April
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! width="100px" align="center" | May
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! width="100px" align="center" | June
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! width="100px" align="center" | July
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! width="100px" align="center" | August
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! width="100px" align="center" | September
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! width="100px" align="center" | October
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! width="100px" align="center" | November
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! width="100px" align="center" | December
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| align="center" style="vertical-align: top;" | '''1622'''
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| align="left" | ||  [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || - || - || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || [[December 17|17]] [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]]
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Hopes this helps - [[User:Andrew|Andy]] 16:42, May 29, 2009 (UTC)
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:Ask Fr John to delete one of the two templates - [[Template:VasilikiCopy]] or [[Template:Ixthis888Copy]] - and add the one you keep to this page: [[OrthodoxWiki:Templates#Personal]]. The template must work fine on the images, because I already use it for... :-) --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 00:26, April 18, 2008 (UTC)
 
  
== Vandals ==
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==Welcome back!==
 
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Hi Vasiliki, it's good to see you here again! Welcome back :) [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:55, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
Another day, another vandal.  :)  It used to be much worse, but [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] installed some automatic software which helps filter out most vandals.  We've had dozens over the years.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:43, April 30, 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Thank you... ==
 
 
 
...for your insight. You are right - Stubborn is my middle name. Unfortunately, we have different opinion on the whole case about m. John. I will summarize it in short:
 
 
 
* I do not see the difference in importance between articles. To me, all of them have same importance.
 
* Judgment of God on the writings of the theologians is seen through Holy Spirit that works in The Church. Thus, The Church lead by the Holy Spirit appears as judge of the writings created either within The Church or outside of it. Having said that, I do not see myself as that "judge". My intent is to have valid opinions of the real judge (The Church) incorporated into the article.
 
* People that were involved in the dispute do not represent "general consensus". Fact that I can write you this note after being blocked yesterday by one of the sysops serve you as proof.
 
* I do not see OrthodoxWiki as "service provided to me" that I am "not paying for" and consequently "have no right to diminate it". I see OrthodoxWiki as a customer of my service and service of other contributors who keep improving it. Problem is when a group of contributors start thinking that they can dominate the customer (OrthodoxWiki) rejecting all other valid and existing Orthodox opinions on a certain subject. Problem is even bigger if sysops are in that group that tries to dominate, and misuse their administrator powers to support their cause.
 
 
 
[[User:Cebactokpatop|Cebactokpatop]] 15:24, May 1, 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Problem with the "Edit" tab ==
 
 
 
Vasiliki, Christos anesti!
 
 
 
I can't seem to reproduce the problem you're describing&mdash;everything is working fine for me, both with Firefox and with Internet Explorer.  The only thing I can guess is that perhaps you're hitting the wrong button on your mouse...?  I honestly have no way to analyze what's happening.  If there is some kind of problem with your account, then [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] is the only one who can fix it.  My sysop powers are limited to editing, not to account or site management.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:47, May 3, 2008 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 00:55, July 28, 2011

If you want to "talk" you can email me via this link Special:Emailuser/Ixthis888.


Note

Vasiliki, thank you for your kind note. I tend to be history buff - so I like to look behind the fluff of tradition (small t) get a picture of what "really" happened. Bill/Basil/Vasily. Wsk 20:31, January 20, 2009 (UTC)

Minor edits

I've noticed you've recently made a huge number of edits all marked as "minor." Please remember that "minor" edits are things like fixing spelling, minor formatting issues, fixing links, etc. Adding content is almost never minor. This may seem pedantic, but it's actually pretty important, since many folks filter what they see in edit histories so that they don't see minor edits.

For more info, check this out: w:Help:Minor edit. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 21:05, May 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I kinda thought that but the fact that I modify every 30 seconds I thought on the other hand people would be annoyed with me if the same article came up a zillion times in the Recent Changes list ..its not a problem ..I can do it the (pedantic) way :-) Vasiliki 21:47, May 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well, perhaps you might also want to consider proofreading and incorporating all your intended edits before you hit "save."  :) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 13:11, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
With all respect (and I know you are cheeky enough to get it), when people give up their personal time to contribute and help it would be nice if their was a *tiny* amount of gratitude and courtesy for their assistance rather than this continual "nit-pick" at things that really are not that important! "proof reading" is valid in context of article (agree and I should do it more often! :P) however in context of a "timeline" its too hard ... I am amazed Angellight888 does so well but he is used to that whole --- pages of text in front of his face and probably can handle it much better than me. I also have to contend with "timing out" after a certain amount of time ... and losing anything in my edit altogether ... so, fair go Father - yesterday there was no such thing as Timeline of History for Britain and today there is) so I will be more obedient to the best of my abilities!! <-- aussie slang. Vasiliki 23:13, May 13, 2009 (UTC)
THANK YOU. There's some gratitude for you.
(Now, since we're writing an encyclopedia, can we please recommence the nit-picking?) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 02:27, May 14, 2009 (UTC)
ROFL/LOL (NO! No nit-picking while there is an InProgress tag) besides since this site works off "charity" then each editor makes up for the weakness and deficiencies of the other (group hug) ... some of us have the time ... the others (who have the smarts) can do the vacuuming ... Vasiliki 03:22, May 14, 2009 (UTC)

Timeline in Britain

Hi again, I replied to your response on my talkpage; I suggest we both use the talkpage for the article itself to make it easier from now on. Cheers, Angellight 888 00:04, May 26, 2009 (UTC)

Vassiliki I revised the proposed outline for the eras; please have a look on the discussion page of the article. You were absolutely correct, the titles for the eras should reflect the history of the Church as much as possible. I think I have done this successfully for the eras up to 1485 AD - (have a look). After that time it is difficult to place a name on any period of British history as it relates to the Church, so we will have to go with the secular headings I think. Again, for the 20th century, if you can determine when each of the dioceses for the various Orthodox jurisdictions were established, we could create a sub-category with those dates. I think for now, we are good to go with the suggested outline. :) Angellight 888 03:53, May 26, 2009 (UTC)

About Dates

I'm using the new calendar dates. This is a problem. In the site i gived to you, http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=8&month=2&trp=0 , ex: Sunday, February 8, 2009 / January 26, 2009 (Church Calendar). January 26, 2009 is the now calendar date. The second date is good. No problem, I'm nervious too, :) Maraamu 12:08, May 28, 2009 (UTC). Same thing with http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=7&month=1&trp=0 . Wednesday, January 7, 2009 / December 25, 2008 (Church Calendar). Is mention the Nativity feast and the 25 dec is the new date. 7 jan is the old date.

BTW. Take it easy. This lists are not an easy work. There are more then 4000 names (in all centuries) out there. We should take this step by step and with a lot of calm, peacefully and love for saints. Maraamu
I do not know why you have the impresion that I am not taking it easy? Especially when I have already said that putting this together requires a lot of work? especially since its a project i started ...??????? You bruise my ego :) Vasiliki 23:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC)

Help Needed ... (tables)

Hi Vasiliki,

How you doing? I gave it a try:

Table 3, shrinks and columns have same widths when columns are not populated,

Seventeenth century (1601-1700):

Saints and major Orthodox personalities from the 17th-century
Introduction ...
Year January February March April May June July August September October November December
1622 Dionysius of Zakynthos - Dionysius of Zakynthos - - - - - Dionysius of Zakynthos - - 17 Dionysius of Zakynthos

Hopes this helps - Andy 16:42, May 29, 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hi Vasiliki, it's good to see you here again! Welcome back :) Angellight 888 00:55, July 28, 2011 (UTC)