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| − | {{Welcome}} —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 15:30, August 30, 2007 (PDT)
| + | If you want to "talk" you can email me via this link [[Special:Emailuser/Ixthis888]]. |
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| − | == Brevity and "Name" sections ==
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| − | Hello! Thanks for all the contributions you've recently been making. I have a concern about the "Name" sections you've been adding to various saints' articles -- they're often being put right at the beginning, before the "Life" sections, which indicates that the meaning of the saint's name is of more encyclopedic importance than his life. Additionally, they're often moderately extensive sections, a paragraph or more.
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| − | I think if you'll take a look at encyclopedias such as the ''Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church'' or the ''Blackwell Dictionary of Eastern Christianity'', or any other encyclopedia, you'll find that etymology usually only takes up perhaps a few words in parentheses after the initial name of the entry, e.g., '''''Stephen the Protomartyr''' (Gk. ''stephanos'', "crown")'''''. | + | ==Note== |
| | + | Vasiliki, thank you for your kind note. I tend to be history buff - so I like to look behind the fluff of tradition (small t) get a picture of what "really" happened. Bill/Basil/Vasily. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 20:31, January 20, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | I'd strongly recommend that you take a look at these stylistically standard sources when editing articles to get a sense of the standards that we've been using on OrthodoxWiki for the past few years. Thanks! —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 10:40, January 17, 2008 (PST)
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| − | : Hello, thanks for the entry on the Taxiarchis icon; I read a longer account of this once but cannot locate it at present; regarding the title of the [[Mantamados]] article, as far as I am aware the name of the icon is primarily ''“Taxiarchis” (Archangel) Michael"'' but the main entry here is listed as that of the village; and you have included two titles for this entry; if the name of the village is commonly associated with the icon, then I suggest perhaps the title be moved to "'''Archangel Michael of Mantamados (Taxiarchis)'''". Just a suggestion for clarity. This would put the title more in line with other entries for key icons, such as those of the Theotokos, and also include the other common reference to this icon, the '''''Taxiarchis'''''. Cheers. —[[User:Angellight_888|<font size="3.5" color="blue" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Chris</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Angellight_888|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> 9:10, January 20, 2008 (EST)
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| − | :: Hi Chris, yes the area is Mantammados but most Greek people actually name the icon as "Mantammados" as a stand alone nickname or pet reference ... We do not usually refer to the entire phrase Archangel Michael Taxiarchis of Mantammados ... its a 'nickname'. Just like the "Panormitis" icon (my article tomorrow) ... we dont call the icon ..the Taxiarchis of Symi the Panormitis, he is more commonly referred to as 'Panormitis' and known this way. Since I am not here on Orthodwiki long enough, do you still suggest that the article be moved anyway? Also, I dont know how to move the article ... I am happy either way, as long as the information is available for people to learn ... -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 18:35, January 20, 2008 (PST)
| + | I've noticed you've recently made a huge number of edits all marked as "minor." Please remember that "minor" edits are things like fixing spelling, minor formatting issues, fixing links, etc. Adding content is almost never minor. This may seem pedantic, but it's actually pretty important, since many folks filter what they see in edit histories so that they don't see minor edits. |
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| − | ==Australian monasteries== | + | For more info, check this out: [[w:Help:Minor edit]]. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:05, May 12, 2009 (UTC) |
| − | Vasiliki, feel free to send me an e-mail with them if you want, but I make no claim to being the editor-in-chief of Australasian articles - that's just my major interest and, well, where I live. As an aside, I'm fairly sure I met the sister you're talking about at last year's National Youth Conference in Brisbane.
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| − | The biggest thing missing from the Gorgoepikoos article is a history of its formation, closely followed by future plans for development, and perhaps a personal history of Mother Kallistheni - the [[Monastery of Pantanassa (Mangrove Mountain, New South Wales|Pantanassa Monastery]] article and the article on [[Stephanos (Pantanassiotis)|Elder Stephanos]] is the best example for what I would look for if I was doing it - but, the beauty of Orthodox Wiki (and all wiki encyclopedias) is that collectively we make better articles. BTW, ''even if'' a complete botch is made, it's not hard to look at the page history - feel free and encouraged to edit profusely! :D — edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 17:04, January 20, 2008 (PST)
| + | Hi, I kinda thought that but the fact that I modify every 30 seconds I thought on the other hand people would be annoyed with me if the same article came up a zillion times in the Recent Changes list ..its not a problem ..I can do it the (pedantic) way :-) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 21:47, May 12, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :Hi Pistevo, I believe you have met his sister then, since she was at the Brisbane conference :-) As for the Geelong Monastery, when next I visit, I will plan to sit down with Mother Kalistheni and get her blessing for this information. I know the story but I dont want to upload it without her blessing. BTW, how do I email you? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 17:12, January 20, 2008 (PST) | + | : Well, perhaps you might also want to consider proofreading and incorporating all your intended edits before you hit "save." :) —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:11, May 13, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Go to my user page, and down the left (under toolbox), there should be an 'e-mail this user' line - just click on that. But, the best way is to just upload them onto OW and put them straight on the page. — edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> | + | ::With all respect (and I know you are cheeky enough to get it), when people give up their personal time to contribute and help it would be nice if their was a *tiny* amount of gratitude and courtesy for their assistance rather than this continual "nit-pick" at things that really are not that important! "proof reading" is valid in context of article (agree and I should do it more often! :P) however in context of a "timeline" its too hard ... I am amazed Angellight888 does so well but he is used to that whole --- pages of text in front of his face and probably can handle it much better than me. I also have to contend with "timing out" after a certain amount of time ... and losing anything in my edit altogether ... so, fair go Father - yesterday there was no such thing as Timeline of History for Britain and today there is) so I will be more obedient to the best of my abilities!! <-- aussie slang. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:13, May 13, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Image permission==
| + | ::: '''THANK YOU.''' There's some gratitude for you. |
| − | Do we have permission to use [http://orthodoxwiki.org/Image:Fanourios.jpeg this icon of St. Phanourious]? It appears to be taken [http://www.imr.gr/images/fanourios.jpg from here], where it is used [http://www.imr.gr/agfanourios.html in this article]. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 11:31, January 31, 2008 (PST)
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| − | :Hi, I thought copyright is attributed to an image taken by someones own camera ... so, you need their permission. This image of the saint is taken from www.imr.gr but it does not belong to them since its been around for a very long time on the web. I thought if an image has been around for a while on the web its ok to use... another thing, most of my other images are scans of my own personal pictures at home. Should we take this image off the page then? -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:44, January 31, 2008 (PST)
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| − | ::If you did not take this picture with your own camera and put it online, or did not specifically get permission to use the image you found online, OrthodoxWiki does not have permission to use it. If you have obtained permission to use this image from the original website, you can add that information to the image page on OrthodoxWiki. See [[Help:Image licenses]] for more information. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 14:27, January 31, 2008 (PST) | + | ::: (Now, since we're writing an encyclopedia, can we please recommence the nit-picking?) —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, May 14, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Hi, I read through the Wikipedia article on Fair Use. It says that you may use copyrighted images of the Intranet provided they are reporduced as Thumbnails at 80 x 200 pixels. -- 14:47, January 31, 2008 (PST) | + | :::: '''ROFL/LOL''' (NO! No nit-picking while there is an InProgress tag) besides since this site works off "charity" then each editor makes up for the weakness and deficiencies of the other (group hug) ... some of us have the time ... the others (who have the smarts) can do the vacuuming ... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:22, May 14, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :::The Wikipedia article on [[w:Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law|fair use]] does mention the use of thumbnails, but the linked article on [[w:Thumbnail|thumbnails]] indicates that the court case was specific to Internet search engines. The current use of the image is larger than 80x200 pixels. The beginning of the OrthodoxWiki [[Help:Image licenses]] page states: "All images should be tagged with information about their copyright/licensing status and source. It is illegal for us to use images on OrthodoxWiki for which we do not have permission or which are not usable under the fair use provisions of United States copyright law.Images which do not conform to policy are subject to immediate deletion. Merely noting the image's source is not enough. There must be verifiable permission given for OrthodoxWiki's use of the image. It is your responsibility as the uploader to ensure that the image may be used and is tagged as properly licensed." I know it's a huge pain, but if we keep track of these things as we upload images, it's much better for OrthodoxWiki to be as correct as we can. Thank you for your help in taking responsibility for the files you upload. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 15:49, January 31, 2008 (PST)
| + | ==Timeline in Britain== |
| | + | Hi again, I replied to your response on my talkpage; I suggest we both use the talkpage for the article itself to make it easier from now on. Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:04, May 26, 2009 (UTC) |
| | + | :Vassiliki I revised the proposed outline for the eras; please have a look on the discussion page of the article. You were absolutely correct, the titles for the eras should reflect the history of the Church as much as possible. I think I have done this successfully for the eras up to 1485 AD - (have a look). After that time it is difficult to place a name on any period of British history as it relates to the Church, so we will have to go with the secular headings I think. Again, for the 20th century, if you can determine when each of the dioceses for the various Orthodox jurisdictions were established, we could create a sub-category with those dates. I think for now, we are good to go with the suggested outline. :) [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 03:53, May 26, 2009 (UTC) |
| | + | ==About Dates== |
| | + | I'm using the '''new calendar dates'''. |
| | + | This is a problem. In the site i gived to you, http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=8&month=2&trp=0 , ex: Sunday, February 8, 2009 / January 26, 2009 (Church Calendar). January 26, 2009 is the now calendar date. The second date is good. No problem, I'm nervious too, :) [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]] 12:08, May 28, 2009 (UTC). Same thing with http://www.holytrinityorthodox.com/calendar/index.php?year=2009&today=7&month=1&trp=0 . Wednesday, January 7, 2009 / December 25, 2008 (Church Calendar). Is mention the Nativity feast and the 25 dec is the new date. 7 jan is the old date. |
| | + | :BTW. Take it easy. This lists are not an easy work. There are more then 4000 names (in all centuries) out there. We should take this step by step and with a lot of calm, peacefully and love for saints. [[User:Maraamu|Maraamu]] |
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| + | ::I do not know why you have the impresion that I am not taking it easy? Especially when I have already said that putting this together requires a lot of work? especially since its a project i started ...??????? You bruise my ego :) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:03, May 28, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | I am very much enjoying reading your contributions. I did want to point out that when you add an external link, I find that there is an extra '''/''' added to the end, which doesn't let the link work. Copying the URL directly from the browser is often the best way to get a link and make sure it works. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 20:17, February 11, 2008 (PST)
| + | == Help Needed ... (tables) == |
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| − | :Hi, its nice to get some positive feedback cause sometimes I feel like I have been a nuisance rather than a help ... I tend to upload lots of little articles and then complete them later. When I take time I can put together a reasonable article, I think, but I am still not very aware of all the editing tricks so its really good having you guys go in and proof read - it is such an amazing experience to revisit an article '''after''' someone has added various links, reworded etc ... it makes an article look real! Thanks. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 20:22, February 11, 2008 (PST)
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| − | :: As long as you're genuinely willing to learn, adapt and work here, you don't have to worry about being a nuisance. If folks comment on your editing, they're just trying to save you (and themselves!) work, to raise the quality of editing being done here. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 11:43, February 12, 2008 (PST)
| + | How you doing? |
| | + | I gave it a try: |
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| − | == "Quick to Hear" icon == | + | ===Table 3, shrinks and columns have same widths when columns are not populated,=== |
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| | + | <h3>Seventeenth century (1601-1700):</h3> |
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| | + | ! width="100%" bgcolor="lightsteelblue" style="padding:0 0 0 50px;" | <center>''Saints and major Orthodox personalities from the 17th-century'' |
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| | + | |<small> ''Introduction ...''</small> |
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| | + | {| style="background:none;" border="1" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="font-size: 75%;" float: right; margin: 10px;" |
| | + | ! width="75px" align="center" | Year |
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| | + | ! width="100px" align="center" | January |
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| | + | ! width="100px" align="center" | August |
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| | + | | align="center" style="vertical-align: top;" | '''1622''' |
| | + | | align="left" | || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || - || - || - || [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] || - || - || [[December 17|17]] [[Dionysius of Zakynthos]] |
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| | + | Hopes this helps - [[User:Andrew|Andy]] 16:42, May 29, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | I don't know much about the icon other than that it originally came from Mt. Athos. Perhaps you may wish to contact [http://www.sttikhonsmonastery.org/ St. Tikhon's] to ask them. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 04:18, February 13, 2008 (PST)
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| − | ==LOL== | + | ==Welcome back!== |
| − | So what tipped you off? — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 17:59, February 17, 2008 (PST)
| + | Hi Vasiliki, it's good to see you here again! Welcome back :) [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:55, July 28, 2011 (UTC) |
| − | :I was bored and clicked on a link on your User page ... I feel bad because I sorta have been replying to you as if you were female ...so, like ... sorry! (ouch) ... oh, there was one comment I was going to make last week to refer to you, me and Magda as 'sisters' - as a joke. Thank God i didnt! LOL -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 18:03, February 17, 2008 (PST)
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| − | Before I head out for the night, I thought I would pass along some links I find helpful:
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| − | *[http://orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/resources/hierarchs/alphabetical.htm Orthodox Research Institute] listing of hierarchs (in three parts, accessible by the letters at the top)
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| − | And I wanted to remind you that usually we don't include contact information on the OrthodoxWiki articles, especially if that information is included in an external link. That way, we don't have to worry about updating or mistyping the information: the link does all the work for us. Have fun! —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 21:53, February 18, 2008 (PST)
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| − | ::Thanks for that, I already have used the OrthodoxResearchInstitute for these Metropolis regions ...but the honourific I wasnt aware of. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 22:01, February 18, 2008 (PST)
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| − | You can include edit summaries in the space directly above the "Save page" button at the bottom of an article you're editing. It's labeled "Summary:" followed by a horizontal box. For more information, see [[Help:Editing]]. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 16:48, February 19, 2008 (PST)
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| − | Since you have done so many pages on Panagia, I was wondering if you had heard of the wonderworking icon of Panagia Evangelistria on Tinos island, if so, it would be great to have any information on that very famous icon. I learned recently that at some point in the recent past, the Roman Catholic priests on the island would join in the yearly procession of the icon along with the Orthodox (not nowadays however). Anyhow just thought I would ask and suggest the idea to you. Cheers, [[User:Angellight_888|Chris]] 22:38, February 20, 2008 (EST)
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| − | Hi Chris, Yes I HAVE heard of the [[Panagia of Tinos]] and yes I was considering doing an article on her at some point. I was adding more common icons first then the more famous ones in Greece ... the story behind that article is amazing and the monastery itself has the most absolutely amazing mosaic paving ... there is also a tradition that exists to this very day if you do a day trip. You will see hundreds of people climbing the hill up to the church on their hands and knees (and if you see how long this is you will truly be amazed! the other thing is, the icon is TINY! When u go in to the church to look at it ...you get SO lost in all the gold ...that you can easily miss this 20xm x 20cm icon ...its teeeeny! -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 19:47, February 20, 2008 (PST)
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| − | Regarding your question to [[User:Magda|Magda]], this is already covered and set in the official Style Manual: [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (People)]].
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| − | If a bishop's see changes, then the article is moved to the new title, which not only correctly then uses the new title but provides a redirect from the old one, which is useful for those doing research who may not know about the change. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 17:43, February 21, 2008 (PST)
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| − | I'm not sure whether you're aware that there's a [[Template:Inprogress]]. You could put that on the articles you are <u>actively</u> developing, which would (1) let others know that you're working on it, and (2) when you click the "What links here" link on the lower left menu, you can more easily keep track of articles you are working on. For more information on how it should be used, check out the [[Template talk:Inprogress|talk page]]. Oh, and another thing: I find it helpful to separate "Sources" from which one gets paraphrased information, "References" or "Notes" which cite specific quotations within an article, and "External links" which allow readers to get even more information which may not be included. The term "External sources" confuses me a little, since all sources have to be external. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 07:51, February 25, 2008 (PST)
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| − | : The key word here is, of course, ''actively''. Generally, you should only use [[Template:Inprogress]] on no more than one or two articles at a time that you're in the process of changing significantly. The idea of the template is to mark an article you're working on '''right now''' so that major edit conflicts don't occur when multiple editors try to work on an article simultaneously.
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| − | : All these one-liner articles—are they really about to expand significantly? My suggestion is that if all there is to say about "Metropolis of Wherever" is that it is a diocese of a particular church, then it should simply remain in a list in the main article about that church. It's disappointing to find an article supposedly about a particular subject and discover it's no more than a single line. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 18:55, March 4, 2008 (PST)
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| − | ::Hi, yes they are. I am working on these ...the only reason I have been quiet last 2 days is bc I have been bombarded at work (Budget report due). Give me a chance :-) I would love it if others added information in to these articles also because the only thing that OrthWiki manages really well is orthodox information pertaining to America and not the rest of the world ... I cant help with Russia or Serbia or other places but Greece is easy since I can translate from the greek ...so, want me to hold off on these articles? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 19:00, March 4, 2008 (PST)
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| − | ::: There's no need to "hold off." Just please don't pepper the wiki with one-liner articles. Remember that it's an encyclopedia. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 04:30, March 5, 2008 (PST) | |
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| − | ::::I have an Encyclopedia at home and there are many cases where the Encyclopedia has one liner entries ... I am really confused by various ideas of what is encyclopedic. Nonetheless, I can appreciate your 'pepper' remark although pepper adds flavour to food AND can open your sinuses if inhaled! LOL ... seriously now, acknowledging a Metropolis with one line is not all that bad ...especially if the intention is to build up the article!! You shouldnt overstress tooooo much Father! Patience and time will bring many blessings ... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 14:39, March 6, 2008 (PST)
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| − | ::::: Patience and time, indeed! My concern is that such articles really present no real information. Perhaps time and patience might be better spent developing a few good articles rather than a series of hoped-for articles. Why not try to fill out existing stubs rather than keep creating new ones?
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| − | ::::: In any event, it doesn't stress me at all. I'm just offering counsel so that we can continue to run a tight ship and not dilute what has been accomplished here over the years. '''Quality''' is more important than '''quantity'''. Please try to make that your focus. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 18:34, March 6, 2008 (PST)
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| − | Hi, I noticed a request for help in the ''change comments'', for a update to the sandbox. It looked like you were using templates that ORTHODOX WIKI does not have. ([[Template:familytree]], [[Template:Familytree/start]], [[Template:Familytree/start]], [[Template:Familytree/end]], and [[Template:Familytree/step2]]). I figured that the templates were on other WIKI’s so I checked WIKIPEDIA ([[w:Template:familytree]], [[w:Template:Familytree/start]], [[w:Template:Familytree/start]], [[w:Template:Familytree/end]], and [[w:Template:Familytree/step2]]). . Since they were there, I copied your sandbox entry into a sandbox over there, it worked fine (sort of). So I copied the templates here to see if they will work here, and found out that they do not work the same here. They will produce all the HTML table commands that will make the table, but it does not execute the commands. (although if you cut and past the commands, they do work here.) That’s as far as I researched this, it may be that I am missing something. - [[User:Andrew|Andrew]] 07:49, February 28, 2008 (PST)
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| − | :I was looking up something Medical on Wiki and I saw them use this template and I thought the concept was great so I thought I would test it out on OrthodoxWiki but I dont have experience with this and especially with Templates. So, I was hoping that someone who has experience with Template could advise how to set that 'family Tree' diagram template up into OrthodoxWiki! Its not a super urgent thing so I hope no one puts it as a high priority. I was just testing it out for curiosity more than anything. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:49, February 28, 2008 (PST)
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| − | My remarks are not meant in any sense to be offensive, just to be helpful in terms of keeping things in line with OrthodoxWiki's high standards. Criticism is meant to be constructive. Of course your contributions are appreciated, and I'd hope you'd also appreciate the contributions others have made in terms of streamlining your (and others'!) contributions to be in keeping with OrthodoxWiki's quality and mission.
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| − | If I've been persistent in criticism, it's because you don't seem to want to contribute in what has generally been found to be the best manner—solidly content-filled articles. I know you're capable of it, because you've done it many times. That's why I've offered admonition rather than simply deleting the dozens of stubs (which is really more of a standard practice). As a sysop, it's part of my duty to help keep things running smoothly. I'd much rather use persuasion than deletion.
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| − | I am genuinely concerned about the creation of multiple, low-content articles, because they downgrade OrthodoxWiki's usefulness. Remember that people are visiting those articles ''now'' and seeing what OrthodoxWiki has on it ''now''. If you present a one-liner article, that may be all that they ever see, and it may also give a visitor the impression that that's all OrthodoxWiki has to offer. Presentation really is everything.
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| − | It's far, far better for us to have fewer content-rich articles, than to have many low-content ones. When creating new articles, please try to focus on just a few at a time, filling them with information, then moving on to create new ones. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 08:04, March 7, 2008 (PST)
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