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Moving articles (e.g., Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand)

In the future, if you'd like to change the name of an article, please use the move tab at the top of the article rather than creating a new article and then changing the old one to a link to the new. This preserves the article's editing history intact.

In the case of this article, I was able to piece the history back together with deletion and moving, but those options aren't fully available to non-sysops. The easiest method (which is also available to everyone) is just to use the move button. Thanks! —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 20:28, December 28, 2005 (CST)

Population estimate

Greetings! Thank you for your contributions. I was wondering whether you had a link or a source for the population estimate for the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand. The original link cites 7,525; you changed the number to an estimated 37,525, but the link remains, now contradicting rather than supporting. I'm guessing that source is from 2001, but I may be wrong. The only other source I could find online is from 1996: 3,969. —magda (talk) 07:46, December 29, 2005 (CST)

+Gibran

Would you mind engaging in the discussion on Talk:Gibran (Rimlawi) of Australia and New Zealand before continuing to change the spelling everywhere? —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 13:28, January 3, 2006 (CST)

Antiochian.org.au

Regarding the parishes - there are a couple of parishes on OrthodoxWiki that haven't made it onto the Antiochian.org.au website: St Nicholas, Mayfield (NSW), Invercargill Mission (NZ), Hamilton Mission (NZ); and also, one that hasn't made it to OrthodoxWiki - St Cuthbert, Rowville (Vic). I didn't add the last one because I thought that you probably knew what was going on and had reasons, but just in case I thought you should know. cheers, -- — by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 16:07, February 7, 2006 (CST)

+Gibran (revisited)

With recent edits, should he be listed as Bishop or Archbishop? I know that you're "closer to the action" (if you'll excuse the term), but there really should be one marker. Also, his nomination for elevation (in northern autumn?) and whether he was actually elevated is ambiguous. Thanks, — by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 03:58, February 27, 2006 (CST)

Yes, it is ambiguous, isn't it... chrisg 22:22 2006 February 27 (EAST)

Church of Antioch

Hi there. I hope you'll address some of the issues I've brought up on Talk:Church of Antioch regarding some of your recent edits. Thanks! —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 20:18, March 13, 2006 (CST)

Your use of Byzantine

Chrisg,

Many folks use the descriptor Byzantine for different purposes. Within Orthodoxy it is generally used to identify the specifically Greek, as opposed to Slavic, tradition. Outside of Orthodoxy it is often used to differentiate between Chalcedonian Orthodoxy and non-Chalcedonian "Oriental" Orthodoxy.

In several of your recent contributions I've noticed you using the word in this latter way. However, this isn't necessary (or even desired) on OrthodoxWiki. We start from a Mainstream Chalcedonian Bias, which means that when we use the word Orthodox we generally mean Eastern or Byzantine Orthodox. We don't have to include the words "Eastern" or "Byzantine." Non-Chalcedonians, etc., are not presumed to be included.

I hope this is clear. Let me know if you have any questions. —Dcn. David talk contribs 06:54, March 15, 2006 (CST)

Ordination

Congrats on your upcoming ordination[1]. Ever-Worthy! --— by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 07:48, April 3, 2006 (CDT)


Thanks. I need to hear Axios, but I cetainly do not personally feel worthy. I had a rather long discussion with Archimandrite Fr Victor Penel last century about whether candidates for priesthood are worthy or not. He disagreed with my view, but we remained friendly nonetheless. But thanks for the comment!

Reminds me of Fr Paul Nadim Tarazi's comments on Communion - if you think you're worthy, you should probably step out of the line. But, just in case, I should clarify - in the Greek, 'Panta Axios' is used from a distance (ie not in person), if I understand correctly, both as 'may you be worthy' and 'always be worthy', ie present and future tenses. Even if it's not correct, that's what I meant :) --— by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 23:18, April 10, 2006 (CDT)
Since the event has happened, a re-stated Axios!. May God grant many years of service according to His will. — sτévο, at 06:29, May 29, 2006 (CDT)
Once again, many thanks. I like the use of Axios in the exhortatory voice. And will always think of it in that positive exemplary way, thanks to your eloquent clarification. I also really like Fr Paul Tarazi's comment about stepping out of line. Fr Themi will be in Australia in June, July, August 2006, visiting Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane. Might you get an opportunity to see the "Apostle to the Poor"?  :)~ chrisg 2006-05-29-2305 EAST
Last time he came to Brisbane, I was out of the state - I hope that doesn't happen again...do you know when he's getting to Brisbane, by any chance? Assuming that I'm here, then God willing I'll definitely be there :D. — sτévο, at 13:30, May 29, 2006 (CDT)

Sydney 5 to 24 July 2006, then straight to Brisbane, but I do not know for how long in Brisbane. chrisg 2006-05-30-1013

SCCOCA

Please see the talk page for SCCOCA. Because there seem to be wildly differing views of SCCOCA, I have placed the views of both the GOA (i.e. Nstavropoulos' edit) and the AOA (i.e. your previous edits) in the article, and labelled as such. Thanks, --— by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 05:04, April 9, 2006 (CDT)


Until I get a citation, I have taken the safer course of deleting the Antiochian comment for the moment. An official comment could be forthcoming in the near future. Thanks chrisg 2006 April 10 1753 EAST

Quite an official comment! As I said on MetBoulos' page, please see the SCCOCA talk page, and the main article. --— by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 23:15, April 10, 2006 (CDT).

I think someone might be a bit sick of the heavy-handed one-sidedness we have seen for so many years.

Of course, the "representatives" of "SCCOCA", except for the Ecumenical representative, were unaware that Antioch had been "excluded". Not a cooperative decision.

Also there was no Representative of the Moscow Patriarchate at the Vespers. The cleric who used to be the representative of the Moscow Patriarchate in Australia had that status terminated by Met Kyril of Smolensk and Kaliningrad about 4 years ago. All the Moscow clergy in Australia now report direct to Met Kyril.

In addition it was ROCOR who used to be a member of SCCOCA, not Moscow. It is a bit disingenous to mention Moscow as having been represented when it was never a member of SCCOCA anyway.....

It must be hard to be unbiased, having only heared the one version in the past.

Who is N Stavropoulos? Is he the college registrar?

Thanks

)~ chrisg 2006 April 11 : 1517 EAST
No no - college registrar is Anastasios Kalogerakis, BTh. I'm not completely sure who it is - Stavropoulos is a fairly common name, particularly amongst active members of the GOA in Sydney - but I do know of a priest by that initial.
Also, I would expect that 'representative of Moscow Patriarchate' was more 'a priest of' (rather than the leader); that being said, I'm not in Marrickville or anything.
*sigh* Australia's always been about half a generation behind America, but we must be well overdue for our huge convert influx, imho. --— by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 03:05, April 11, 2006 (CDT)

Exarchs

The current situation for Exarchs for the Church of Antioch for Australia and New Zealand is a little jumbled - any chance you'd be able to spare time for your preparation to shed some light on these very overlapping dates?

Thanks, — by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 03:43, May 23, 2006 (CDT)

clarification: were there two exarchs in Australia at the one time? — by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 04:38, May 23, 2006 (CDT)
I've attempted to clear this up as much as possible: I've tried to make it flow from Fr Nicholas Shehadie to Fr Nicolas Mansour (after that is easy, of course). Backwards it doesn't work, but I'm hoping that forwards both works and is correct. Your input, when possible, is much appreciated. — sτévο, at 08:07, May 27, 2006 (CDT)

Deaconesses

Chrisg, this information might be better placed in the Diakonissa article as a section, with some mention in the Feminism in the Orthodox Church article. Additionally, we try not to have plural article titles. —magda (talk) 11:37, May 31, 2006 (CDT)

Deaconess is an order in the Church. Diakonissa, like Khourieh, are wives of those in orders. A link to deaconesses might be appropriate in the Diakonissa article, and depending on its treatment perhaps in the Feminism article. chrisg 2006-06-01-1219 EAST

Bishop

Thank you for restoring this article - much appreciated! — edited by sτévο at 02:08, June 18, 2006 (CDT)

Dalmatikon

Please see my comments on the discussion page for this article. —Dcn. David talk contribs 13:52, June 20, 2006 (CDT)

ROCOR ANZ

Dcn Chris, I'd love to see some citations on the recent history section of the ROCOR ANZ article. I've left your edit up because I know that, sadly, it's probably correct, but print citations would be beneficial. — edited by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 07:33, September 15, 2006 (CDT)

Sorry, I forgot the editors on OrthodoxWiki are not used to dealing with primary sources. With this matter, there is nothing anywhere else in writing yet. The substance of the post was confirmed in a personal conversation with Vladyka Hilarion after the Fr Seraphim Rose panakydha at Croydon metroSydney tonight.
Feel free to remove my comments on ROCOR if you wish. I have already been asked not to update OrthodoxWiki on anything to do with the Antiochian Orthodox Church and especially the Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania, after OrthodoxWiki's North American subeditor refused to accede to the Metropolitan Archbishop's wishes regarding his own biography, and various other subsequent matters.
Perhaps it would be easiest if I simply update nothing and add nothing to OrthodoxWiki at all in future.
FDC Friday 15 September 2006 : 2308 AEST
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