Talk:Standing Conference of Canonical Orthodox Churches in Australia

Dear Dcndavid

The Standing Council of Canonical Orthodox Churches in Australia was established only for Eastern Orthodox jurisdictions. The bias was there at establishment.

My correction showed this historical bias.

Your removal of my correction, for whatever reason, removes the historical truth.

Is that what you meant to do?

chrisg 2006-03-15 1820 AEDT

Without wanting to intrude: the term 'byzantine' (in 'byzantine Orthodox') is usually used comparatively - whether comparing byzantine and slavic (as the main Eastern liturgic traditions), comparing byzantine with roman (although that's usually 'greek' and 'roman'). The only interpretations that I saw for explicitly saying 'Byzantine Orthodox' was that it excluded either the Orthodox following slavic customs (eg Serbians, Russians), or those following the Western Rite (which, afaik, didn't exist in Australia at the time of founding), or those in the Oriental Orthodox Churches (which would, indeed, be covered under the MCB). --— by Pιsτévο ^{talk complaints} at 02:01, March 15, 2006 (CST)

In 1991 the Church of Antioch decided:-

1. We affirm the total and mutual respect of the spirituality, heritage and Holy Fathers of both Churches. The integrity of both the Byzantine and Syriac liturgies is to be preserved. Pastoral Agreement 1991

The adjective Byzantine had been used in the sense of not including Oriental Orthodox.

The founders of SCCOCA deliberately excluded the Oriental Orthodox.

chrisg 2006-03-15 2132 AEDT

In the quote provided, Byzantine is referring to the specific liturgical tradition rather than to the bodies in question. In any event, the current wording (Eastern) is more in keeping with established English usage when comparing the two groups (Eastern and Oriental). Chalcedonian and Non-Chalcedonian are also quite common.

Anyhow, the adjustment that Dcn. David originally made was in keeping with OrthodoxWiki's established Mainstream Chalcedonian Bias, in which Orthodox used without qualification refers to Chalcedonian/Eastern Orthodoxy. Please take the time to familiarize yourself with that portion of and the rest of the Style Manual.

I do have a question about the external link, though—it seems to be linking only to the Greek Archdiocese's website without any history of SCOCCA included. The previous link included the history. I've restored it. —Fr. Andrew ^talk contribs (THINK!) 06:10, March 15, 2006 (CST)