Talk:Septuagint

Differences with Other Canons

ISTM that up until the Second Vatican Council, the numbering of the Roman Catholic editions of the psalter was that of the Septuagint. I'm fairly sure the Vulgate and preconciliar prayerbooks list the Miserere as Psalm L. The shift in numbering is a reflection of the increased participation of Roman Catholics in critical textual scholarship, which was until the middle of the twentieth century dominated by Protestants. (I personally lament this and similar well-intentioned but confusing and misguided shifts in numbering the psalter by Orthodox Christians.)

Any chance you could cite some sources for this? I'd be interested to see this -- I was unaware that the RCC had changed its numbering. The Coverdale and 1611 KJV Psalters (which, though Protestant, pre-date modern textual criticism) I have both have the Miserere mei as Psalm 51 (i.e., the MT numbering). This Douay-Rheims has it as 50, though. --Rdr. Andrew 21:50, 19 Jan 2005 (CST)

The Coverdale and the KJV are going to follow Luther's mistake, if I may be so bold, because they arise from the Reformation. However, you are right to note that the Douay-Rheims has the traditional numbering. The part that textual criticism plays (for the recent change in Roman Catholic scholarship) is this: the premise that the Hebrew text (ie, the MT) is somehow normative because Judaism was primary and foundational for early Christianity. Again, this premise reflects the essentially Protestant origin of textual criticism.

I must once again lament that my once magnificent library is a shell of its former glory, and most of what remains resides in my priest's study at my parish in Kentucky. Not very accessible for me in Connecticut. I'll see if I can rustle up a source or two. --Basil 20:47, 20 Jan 2005 (CST)