Talk:Papa-Nicholas (Planas) of Athens

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Do we have permission to use [http://evlogeite.com/?p=74 this text]? It is not clear what is being used from which source.  Also, a specific URL should be linked. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 10:03, February 25, 2008 (PST)
 
Do we have permission to use [http://evlogeite.com/?p=74 this text]? It is not clear what is being used from which source.  Also, a specific URL should be linked. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 10:03, February 25, 2008 (PST)
 
:Hi, honestly I have not asked because I did not realise that blog spots are also copyright, especially if you reference them? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:34, February 25, 2008 (PST)
 
:Hi, honestly I have not asked because I did not realise that blog spots are also copyright, especially if you reference them? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:34, February 25, 2008 (PST)
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::In the [[OrthodoxWiki:Style_Manual#Copyrighted_Material|style manual]] it says "... most things are copyrighted by default."  At the bottom of each page, just above the summary: "By submitting your work you promise that you wrote it yourself, obtained explicit permission, or copied it from public domain or similar free resources — this does '''not''' include most web pages!" My understanding is that if you create something, you own the copyright on it unless you specifically give up your rights to it, whether it's a masterpiece on canvas or your personal diary. One difficulty in copyright disputes is proving your right to it, by showing that you created it (or created it first).  It seems unfair to use someone else's work without permission.  Another aspect is that we want the best sources on OrthodoxWiki.  If we cite everything, then people who have a problem with the information can check: "Oh, here's where St. Athanasius wrote that."  That's one reason I like to put the "(OCA)" and "(GOARCH)" links after sources for saints, so that readers understand the links they click on are from legitimate Orthodox sources.  For instance, many Catholic books look down on St. Photius the Great, considering him a schismatic.[http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12043b.htm]  By pointing out that such a statement comes from a non-Orthodox background helps to sort through information.  Pointing out when sources come from Orthodox sources, in turn, helps readers (at least myself) feel more sure of the information on OrthodoxWiki. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 14:05, February 25, 2008 (PST)

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Do we have permission to use this text? It is not clear what is being used from which source. Also, a specific URL should be linked. —magda (talk) 10:03, February 25, 2008 (PST)

Hi, honestly I have not asked because I did not realise that blog spots are also copyright, especially if you reference them? Vasiliki 13:34, February 25, 2008 (PST)
In the style manual it says "... most things are copyrighted by default." At the bottom of each page, just above the summary: "By submitting your work you promise that you wrote it yourself, obtained explicit permission, or copied it from public domain or similar free resources — this does not include most web pages!" My understanding is that if you create something, you own the copyright on it unless you specifically give up your rights to it, whether it's a masterpiece on canvas or your personal diary. One difficulty in copyright disputes is proving your right to it, by showing that you created it (or created it first). It seems unfair to use someone else's work without permission. Another aspect is that we want the best sources on OrthodoxWiki. If we cite everything, then people who have a problem with the information can check: "Oh, here's where St. Athanasius wrote that." That's one reason I like to put the "(OCA)" and "(GOARCH)" links after sources for saints, so that readers understand the links they click on are from legitimate Orthodox sources. For instance, many Catholic books look down on St. Photius the Great, considering him a schismatic.[1] By pointing out that such a statement comes from a non-Orthodox background helps to sort through information. Pointing out when sources come from Orthodox sources, in turn, helps readers (at least myself) feel more sure of the information on OrthodoxWiki. —magda (talk) 14:05, February 25, 2008 (PST)
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