Talk:Orthodoxy in Hawaii

Archived discussion: /Jurisdictionalism and Hawaii

I made some formatting edits and also removed some POV commentary. — FrJohn (talk) 22:08, May 30, 2007 (PDT)

POV

Nectarios, I'm not clear why you are trying to remove the association of this Russian community with ROCOR. it appears to me that you are trying to shape the article to assert that ROCOR has an exclusive canonical claim to the Hawaiian Islands. Can you be more clear about why you're making these edits?

From an OCA point of view, Hawaii is part of North America, which constitutes is proper canonical territory, following the tomos from Moscow. I don't think this is a terribly helpful or productive battle to fight though -- we must all recognize the reality of the historical situation in America (and all the "diaspora" lands) , with all of its opportunities and challenges. Ideally, there would be a united Orthodox church in these regions, but I don't think this will happen anytime soon. I agree we need to keep proper canonical order in mind, but it shouldn't be a stick with which we beat each other with - rather, something we work towards in charity and brotherhood. — FrJohn (talk)

Personal attacks.

I dont think personal attacks are proper here Fr. John. Who moderates the moderators? Who can I complain to?