https://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Moses the Black - Revision history2024-03-28T20:20:51ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&diff=36639&oldid=prevASDamick: Please sign your comments on talk pages.2006-07-31T13:28:39Z<p>Please sign your comments on talk pages.</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::He is also very well known as Moses the Black, even in the Roman Catholic Calendar, e.g., [http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/saintm34.htm], and also Eastern Orthodox Calendars/sites, e.g., [http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=181],[http://www.stmaryofegypt.net/saints_moses.shtml]. Google: "moses the black": 13,900 - "moses the ethiopian": 9,530 as at 31 July 2006.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::He is also very well known as Moses the Black, even in the Roman Catholic Calendar, e.g., [http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/saintm34.htm], and also Eastern Orthodox Calendars/sites, e.g., [http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=181],[http://www.stmaryofegypt.net/saints_moses.shtml]. Google: "moses the black": 13,900 - "moses the ethiopian": 9,530 as at 31 July 2006.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Arbible|Arbible]] ([[User talk:Arbible|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Arbible|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Also true.  Yes, the article may be better served to title St Moses "the Ethiopian"; may be better served as "the Black".</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Also true.  Yes, the article may be better served to title St Moses "the Ethiopian"; may be better served as "the Black".</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:However, a couple of things need to be kept in mind.  Firstly, using "the Ethiopian" because using 'black' is considered to be offensive to a specific group in a specific location would not, imho, be a valid reason for changing (nor, in the case of African Americans, necessarily true: [[w:African American]]; [[w:Black people]]).  Secondly, in terms of a missionary context, it would be better to stick with a larger title than to limit a saint to their country.  Thirdly (and most importantly), the standard in article naming is usually the most commonly accepted form; while 'St Moses the Black' is the title that I am most used to, 'St Moses the Ethiopian' is the variant that I have seen on a number of new icons.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:However, a couple of things need to be kept in mind.  Firstly, using "the Ethiopian" because using 'black' is considered to be offensive to a specific group in a specific location would not, imho, be a valid reason for changing (nor, in the case of African Americans, necessarily true: [[w:African American]]; [[w:Black people]]).  Secondly, in terms of a missionary context, it would be better to stick with a larger title than to limit a saint to their country.  Thirdly (and most importantly), the standard in article naming is usually the most commonly accepted form; while 'St Moses the Black' is the title that I am most used to, 'St Moses the Ethiopian' is the variant that I have seen on a number of new icons.</div></td></tr>
</table>ASDamickhttps://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&diff=36636&oldid=prevASDamick at 13:25, July 31, 20062006-07-31T13:25:20Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The obvious copout is just to rename this article to something like ''Moses (ascetic of Scetis)''; but perhaps, with other opinions, we may be able to reach a consensus. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 04:17, July 31, 2006 (CDT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The obvious copout is just to rename this article to something like ''Moses (ascetic of Scetis)''; but perhaps, with other opinions, we may be able to reach a consensus. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 04:17, July 31, 2006 (CDT)</div></td></tr>
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</table>ASDamickhttps://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&diff=36615&oldid=prevPistevo: What should the title of this saint's article be?2006-07-31T09:17:08Z<p>What should the title of this saint's article be?</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::He is also very well known as Moses the Black, even in the Roman Catholic Calendar, e.g., [http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/saintm34.htm], and also Eastern Orthodox Calendars/sites, e.g., [http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=181],[http://www.stmaryofegypt.net/saints_moses.shtml]. Google: "moses the black": 13,900 - "moses the ethiopian": 9,530 as at 31 July 2006.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::He is also very well known as Moses the Black, even in the Roman Catholic Calendar, e.g., [http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/saintm34.htm], and also Eastern Orthodox Calendars/sites, e.g., [http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=181],[http://www.stmaryofegypt.net/saints_moses.shtml]. Google: "moses the black": 13,900 - "moses the ethiopian": 9,530 as at 31 July 2006.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Pistevohttps://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&diff=36613&oldid=prevArbible at 07:49, July 31, 20062006-07-31T07:49:33Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:FWIW, in Greek the title is actually 'the Ethiopian'.  (also, pls remember to sign your posts with four tildes, as so: '<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>') -- &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 02:07, July 31, 2006 (CDT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:FWIW, in Greek the title is actually 'the Ethiopian'.  (also, pls remember to sign your posts with four tildes, as so: '<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>') -- &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 02:07, July 31, 2006 (CDT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:FWIW, in Greek the title is actually 'the Ethiopian'.  (also, pls remember to sign your posts with four tildes, as so: '<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>') -- &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 02:07, July 31, 2006 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Pistevohttps://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&diff=36609&oldid=prevAndreas at 05:20, July 31, 20062006-07-31T05:20:32Z<p></p>
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</table>Andreashttps://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Moses_the_Black&diff=36608&oldid=prevAndreas at 05:20, July 31, 20062006-07-31T05:20:01Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Does anybody think this page might be better served if St. Moses is referred to as "the Ethiopian" and not the black?</div>Andreas