Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches

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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true.  There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow.  In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.
 
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true.  There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow.  In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.
  
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch:  http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en  Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document.  Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch:  http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en  Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document.  Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article.  (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)

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Church of Sinai

it was my understanding that the Church of Sinai was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? Pistevo 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)

I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the GOA and a professor at Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Archbishopric of Ohrid

There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--Ddpbf 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)

Archdiocese is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)

ROCOR's autonomy

Please do not keep adding the ROCOR to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the Church of Russia. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)

The Church of Cyprus

Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. Eugene 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)

The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.
Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.
As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the Church of Cyprus article. (Indeed, it's already there.) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)
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