Talk:Joseph the Hesychast

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:If Spilaiotis means Cave-dweller, then it should definitely be removed - from his parents' names, the intro and the title.
 
:If Spilaiotis means Cave-dweller, then it should definitely be removed - from his parents' names, the intro and the title.
 
:The references for Spilaiotis are [http://orthodoxphotos.com/Athonite_Hermits/index.shtml here (ctrl-f 'Joseph'), which uses Spilaiotis and Spelaiotis] and [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=spilaiotis+OR+spelaiotis&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official here, where there is one use as a surname (Elias Spilaiotis) and one as a title (O Geron Arsenios o Spilaiotis)].
 
:The references for Spilaiotis are [http://orthodoxphotos.com/Athonite_Hermits/index.shtml here (ctrl-f 'Joseph'), which uses Spilaiotis and Spelaiotis] and [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=spilaiotis+OR+spelaiotis&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official here, where there is one use as a surname (Elias Spilaiotis) and one as a title (O Geron Arsenios o Spilaiotis)].
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I have seen icons and books of Elder Joseph referred to as "the Hesychast" as well as "the Cavedweller" (or Spilaiotis in Greek) so the title and intro can show that. I don't know the style for how to show that it is not his last name. I can remove his parents' last name.

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I think "Spilaiotis" is not his last name, but means "Cave-dweller" as he is also known as. This means that his parents do not have this as a last name. If this is the case, we need to remove "Spilaiotis" from his parents' name.

If Spilaiotis means Cave-dweller, then it should definitely be removed - from his parents' names, the intro and the title.
The references for Spilaiotis are here (ctrl-f 'Joseph'), which uses Spilaiotis and Spelaiotis and here, where there is one use as a surname (Elias Spilaiotis) and one as a title (O Geron Arsenios o Spilaiotis).

I have seen icons and books of Elder Joseph referred to as "the Hesychast" as well as "the Cavedweller" (or Spilaiotis in Greek) so the title and intro can show that. I don't know the style for how to show that it is not his last name. I can remove his parents' last name.

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