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The article asserts that various biblical texts date the flood. None give a date, so this should be re-written. The MT doesn't ''say'' c.2300 BCE, the LXX doesn't ''say'' 3250 BCE, etc. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 16:14, March 10, 2009 (UTC)
 
The article asserts that various biblical texts date the flood. None give a date, so this should be re-written. The MT doesn't ''say'' c.2300 BCE, the LXX doesn't ''say'' 3250 BCE, etc. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 16:14, March 10, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Agreed. That should be spelled out clearly in the article. The dates are not in the Sciptures but rather from the "World Era" Calendar systems developed by Judaism and Eastern Orthodoxy historically. A qualifier could be provided for example, stating that ''"according to the Hillel World Era (Judaism) determination, based on the Masoretic text, the flood is placed AROUND 2300 BC"'', and ''"according to the Byzantine Creation Era determination, based on the Septuagint, the flood is placed AROUND 3247 BC"''...etc.
 
:Agreed. That should be spelled out clearly in the article. The dates are not in the Sciptures but rather from the "World Era" Calendar systems developed by Judaism and Eastern Orthodoxy historically. A qualifier could be provided for example, stating that ''"according to the Hillel World Era (Judaism) determination, based on the Masoretic text, the flood is placed AROUND 2300 BC"'', and ''"according to the Byzantine Creation Era determination, based on the Septuagint, the flood is placed AROUND 3247 BC"''...etc.
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:As a caveat to this, I agree with the concern Vassiliki has raised; i.e. Is this article representing an official Orthodox view of this subject? I think this subject needs to be developed carefully, and expertly vetted before being published on OW. Suggest taking it offline for now until this can be done. Some subjects, such as this, while important and interesting and a topic of modern interest to be sure, are more of a theme in contemporary creationist circles, than with Orthodoxy.  
 
:As a caveat to this, I agree with the concern Vassiliki has raised; i.e. Is this article representing an official Orthodox view of this subject? I think this subject needs to be developed carefully, and expertly vetted before being published on OW. Suggest taking it offline for now until this can be done. Some subjects, such as this, while important and interesting and a topic of modern interest to be sure, are more of a theme in contemporary creationist circles, than with Orthodoxy.  
  
:The article does not cite any sources either. Would like to see commentary from Orthodox sources and Fathers.
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:The article does not cite any sources either. Would like to see commentary from Orthodox sources and Fathers. Different approaches to the subject can be cited as External links to those articles, for breadth of coverage, such as the ''Catholic Encyclopedia (New Advents')'' article on the ''[http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04702a.htm Deluge]''.
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:Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 17:07, March 10, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 17:07, March 10, 2009 (UTC)

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Dates?

The article asserts that various biblical texts date the flood. None give a date, so this should be re-written. The MT doesn't say c.2300 BCE, the LXX doesn't say 3250 BCE, etc. --Fr Lev 16:14, March 10, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. That should be spelled out clearly in the article. The dates are not in the Sciptures but rather from the "World Era" Calendar systems developed by Judaism and Eastern Orthodoxy historically. A qualifier could be provided for example, stating that "according to the Hillel World Era (Judaism) determination, based on the Masoretic text, the flood is placed AROUND 2300 BC", and "according to the Byzantine Creation Era determination, based on the Septuagint, the flood is placed AROUND 3247 BC"...etc.
As a caveat to this, I agree with the concern Vassiliki has raised; i.e. Is this article representing an official Orthodox view of this subject? I think this subject needs to be developed carefully, and expertly vetted before being published on OW. Suggest taking it offline for now until this can be done. Some subjects, such as this, while important and interesting and a topic of modern interest to be sure, are more of a theme in contemporary creationist circles, than with Orthodoxy.
The article does not cite any sources either. Would like to see commentary from Orthodox sources and Fathers. Different approaches to the subject can be cited as External links to those articles, for breadth of coverage, such as the Catholic Encyclopedia (New Advents') article on the Deluge.
Cheers, Angellight 888 17:07, March 10, 2009 (UTC)
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