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(Which Church disputes the MP's claim on the Ukraine?)
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I am not aware of any recognized Orthodox Church that disputes the MP's claim to jurisdiction over the Ukraine.  There are schismatic groups that no one recognizes that do, but not one that anyone does recognize.[[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 13:07, July 19, 2007 (PDT)
 
I am not aware of any recognized Orthodox Church that disputes the MP's claim to jurisdiction over the Ukraine.  There are schismatic groups that no one recognizes that do, but not one that anyone does recognize.[[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 13:07, July 19, 2007 (PDT)
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: For the Ukraine, the reference is to the (as I understand it) large schisms within that country.  (I don't think any of the MCB churches have yet declared the people and churches in those schisms to be themselves non-Orthodox.)  I do not believe that any of the MCB churches dispute the MP's jurisdiction in Ukraine (though at times there has been the impression that the EP might).  Anyway, it's complicated, of course.  Perhaps a note about the nature of the dispute over Ukraine would cover it.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:37, July 19, 2007 (PDT)

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this article is missing much information —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MshKlimek (talkcontribs) .

Indeed. I encourage you to help by adding it. Thanks!  :) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 05:17, June 1, 2007 (PDT)

Which Church disputes the MP's claim on the Ukraine?

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The self-governing churches receive their chrism from the Patriarch of Moscow and exercise their activities on the basis of patriarchal tomos. This claim of jurisdiction is disputed by other Orthodox churches in a number of cases (particularly in Estonia, Moldova and Ukraine, as well as in the diaspora).

I am not aware of any recognized Orthodox Church that disputes the MP's claim to jurisdiction over the Ukraine. There are schismatic groups that no one recognizes that do, but not one that anyone does recognize.Frjohnwhiteford 13:07, July 19, 2007 (PDT)

For the Ukraine, the reference is to the (as I understand it) large schisms within that country. (I don't think any of the MCB churches have yet declared the people and churches in those schisms to be themselves non-Orthodox.) I do not believe that any of the MCB churches dispute the MP's jurisdiction in Ukraine (though at times there has been the impression that the EP might). Anyway, it's complicated, of course. Perhaps a note about the nature of the dispute over Ukraine would cover it. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 14:37, July 19, 2007 (PDT)
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