Talk:Church of Estonia (Ecumenical Patriarchate)

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"Apostolic"

I've noticed that the word "apostolic" has been removed several times from the title of this church. The reason I keep adding it is that the church's official name in Estonian, Eesti Apostlik-Õigeusu Kirik (which is also on the official website[1]), clearly includes the word "apostolic" in it, and so does a scholarly reference site[2]. Why, then, does it keep getting removed? —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 16:08, January 11, 2006 (CST)

The "other" Church of Estonia

I think perhaps there is some confusion regarding this article. The Church of Estonia article is about the autonomous entity whose primate is confirmed by the Ecumenical Patriarch. It's been edited recently to refer instead to another entity, but there really ought to be two separate articles. Links already exist for this other entity, the exarchate of the Moscow Patriarchate, and it's waiting for an article to be written: Church of Estonia (Moscow Patriarchate). We invite this other article to be written, but it should not replace the existing article. Thank you for your contributions! —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 17:41, May 30, 2007 (PDT)

From the standpoint of "Mainstream Chalcedonian Bias", this article ought to be renamed to Church of Estonia (Ecumenical Patriarchate) if the other is Church of Estonia (Moscow Patriarchate). Otherwise, it seems like OrthodoxWiki is "endorsing" one jurisdiction over another. Note, that no one in the world, except the EP recognizes the "Estonian Apostolic Orthodox Church". --Aleks 01:05, June 22, 2008 (UTC)

The reason for the difference in naming is that the EP's Estonian church is not regarded by the EP as a constituent part—rather, the EP regards the Estonian church as autonomous, having the same status as Finland, Sinai, etc. The MP, however, regards its Estonian church as being essentially an integral part of the MP, in contrast with the Church of Ukraine, which it regards as autonomous. Thus, the distinction.
I'd be interested to see a citation on the EP's Estonian church's recognition—many of the ancient churches tend to follow the EP's lead on such matters. Do we have something published which indicates the position of Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, Greece, Cyprus, etc.? —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 20:26, June 22, 2008 (UTC)
See my response on Fr Andrew's talk page.--Aleks 16:03, June 23, 2008 (UTC)
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