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I noticed you have listed Abbess Rufina of Harbin and Shanghai (1937). I got information from a ROCOR priest that she is not a saint, but is prayed for everyday in San Francisco, Jordanville, and probably the Synod Cathedral also, and in Jerusalem. And that St John Maximovich when sending the nuns who were under Abbess Rufina over to San Francisco from China said in a letter stating, "I am sending you nuns who do not recognize the Church authority (i.e., obedience to the bishop)." ( It is in the Dioceses' archives.)
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I noticed you have listed Abbess Rufina of Harbin and Shanghai (1937). I got information from a ROCOR priest that she is not a saint, but is prayed for everyday in San Francisco, Jordanville, and probably the Synod Cathedral also, and in Jerusalem.
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: I'm not sure what the source was for that commemoration.  Anyone know?  {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 14:18, February 25, 2006 (CST)
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I found out she was first listed in the St Herman Calendar, and they gave a reason for her listing as a reminder to pray for her on the anniversary of her repose, which also applies to the other departed righteous ones on their calendar. I'm guessing all the other names listed in your calendar should be double-checked against the St Herman Calendar to make sure the distinction is somehow made for those righteous ones meant for commemoration of the departed at the liturgy, probably with their names in italics and a footnote explaining it. I found a website that does italicize the names of the righteous ones to be commemorated at http://www.holynameabbey.org/Aug.htm
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This is their reponse:
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> Dear Mitrophan,<BR>
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>        If you've seen our calendar, at the end of the list of saints, in<BR>
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> italic letters, it includes righteous ones who have not been canonized but<BR>
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> are well known for their holy life and struggles for God. This is so they<BR>
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> may be commemorated at the Liturgy on their memory day, and for informing<BR>
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> the faithful so they may pray for their souls. This same thing is done in<BR>
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> calendars published in ROCOR as well.<BR>
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>        It was, and is, in this way that Abbess Rufina of Harbin is included<BR>
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> in our calendar.<BR>
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><BR>
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> Sincerely,<BR>
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> St. Herman Press<BR>
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The source commemoration is from the [http://pomog.org/index.html?saintlist.shtml Complete List of Saints] from the website of the Protection of the Mother of God Church ([[Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia|ROCOR]]) in Rochester, New York. {{User:Magda/sig}} 07:37, February 28, 2006 (CST)
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I've compiled a list at http://orthodox.cn/calendar/repose_en.htm

Latest revision as of 07:25, March 8, 2006

I noticed you have listed Abbess Rufina of Harbin and Shanghai (1937). I got information from a ROCOR priest that she is not a saint, but is prayed for everyday in San Francisco, Jordanville, and probably the Synod Cathedral also, and in Jerusalem.

I'm not sure what the source was for that commemoration. Anyone know? —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 14:18, February 25, 2006 (CST)

I found out she was first listed in the St Herman Calendar, and they gave a reason for her listing as a reminder to pray for her on the anniversary of her repose, which also applies to the other departed righteous ones on their calendar. I'm guessing all the other names listed in your calendar should be double-checked against the St Herman Calendar to make sure the distinction is somehow made for those righteous ones meant for commemoration of the departed at the liturgy, probably with their names in italics and a footnote explaining it. I found a website that does italicize the names of the righteous ones to be commemorated at http://www.holynameabbey.org/Aug.htm

This is their reponse:

> Dear Mitrophan,
> If you've seen our calendar, at the end of the list of saints, in
> italic letters, it includes righteous ones who have not been canonized but
> are well known for their holy life and struggles for God. This is so they
> may be commemorated at the Liturgy on their memory day, and for informing
> the faithful so they may pray for their souls. This same thing is done in
> calendars published in ROCOR as well.
> It was, and is, in this way that Abbess Rufina of Harbin is included
> in our calendar.
>
> Sincerely,
> St. Herman Press

The source commemoration is from the Complete List of Saints from the website of the Protection of the Mother of God Church (ROCOR) in Rochester, New York. —magda (talk) 07:37, February 28, 2006 (CST)


I've compiled a list at http://orthodox.cn/calendar/repose_en.htm

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