Talk:Aerial Toll-Houses

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(New page: ==Universally held?== According to Fr. Thomas Hopko, it is a universally held Orthodox idea: [http://audio.ancientfaith.com/illuminedheart/hopko_tolls.mp3 http://audio.ancientfaith.com/il...)
 
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Metropolitan Hierotheos Vlachos agrees.  The very most retired Archbishop Lazar Puhalo disagrees.  That does not disprove the point.  Nothing is universally held if by that we mean that one cannot cite an example of someone who doesn't hold it.  Criticism of the Toll Houses is very recent, and frankly flies in the face of the Patristic, liturgical, and iconographic tradition of the Church. [[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 19:05, January 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
Metropolitan Hierotheos Vlachos agrees.  The very most retired Archbishop Lazar Puhalo disagrees.  That does not disprove the point.  Nothing is universally held if by that we mean that one cannot cite an example of someone who doesn't hold it.  Criticism of the Toll Houses is very recent, and frankly flies in the face of the Patristic, liturgical, and iconographic tradition of the Church. [[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 19:05, January 31, 2009 (UTC)
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: I honestly don't know enough about it to make a ruling either way, myself.  But I do know that this is controversial in our time.  Much of the article reads as though it is not.
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: It would probably be worth it at least to state as much, as well as to add nuance to the "pro" side of the question, e.g., whether it is to be understood strictly literally, etc.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:08, January 31, 2009 (UTC)

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Universally held?

According to Fr. Thomas Hopko, it is a universally held Orthodox idea: http://audio.ancientfaith.com/illuminedheart/hopko_tolls.mp3

Metropolitan Hierotheos Vlachos agrees. The very most retired Archbishop Lazar Puhalo disagrees. That does not disprove the point. Nothing is universally held if by that we mean that one cannot cite an example of someone who doesn't hold it. Criticism of the Toll Houses is very recent, and frankly flies in the face of the Patristic, liturgical, and iconographic tradition of the Church. Frjohnwhiteford 19:05, January 31, 2009 (UTC)

I honestly don't know enough about it to make a ruling either way, myself. But I do know that this is controversial in our time. Much of the article reads as though it is not.
It would probably be worth it at least to state as much, as well as to add nuance to the "pro" side of the question, e.g., whether it is to be understood strictly literally, etc. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 21:08, January 31, 2009 (UTC)
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