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What does "There has been now attached Copyright, and is thus free for personal use" mean? If this was a typo (i.e. "NO attached Copyright"), then it is in error; under international copyright law, works are copyrighted unless they are explicitly released into public domain (either by an act of the owner or by expiration of the copyright). You don't have to claim a copyright in order to have it. It's automatic.

We have to have explicit permission from the copyright holder in order to use this image. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 14:44, August 6, 2007 (PDT)

My bad. I fixed the spelling and changed the tag (there is no proof of Copyright, but there isn't permission for free use). Thanks, ~ Troy 16:40, August 7, 2007 (PDT)
If you can secure explicit permission for our use, then we'll keep it. Otherwise, it will have to be deleted. Remember that copyright is automatic without any notice required. (Proof of copyright is only required if there is a contest in court, and a copyright notice isn't necessarily a guarantee of that, anyhow.)
I notice that the image is now tagged as being in the public domain (free for any public use without any permission whatsoever required). Is this really the case? Did the copyright owner of the image release it? —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 06:20, August 8, 2007 (PDT)

I have found no Copyright, so I assumed that it is ineligible. To be honest, it is also available on Wikipedia here, so does that make it have an incorrect tag too? Excuse me, but I have simply realized that I am not familiar with images that don't have any Copyright attached and ones that also don't even have any information on Copyright policy. When you said "copyright is automatic without any notice required" I have realized what it is. What should I do now if I want to legally use this image for this purpose? ~ Troy 09:13, August 8, 2007 (PDT)

To use the image legally, you have to get permission from whoever holds the copyright. (And yes, the upload to Wikipedia is also currently illegal, since there is no indication that permission was given for that usage, either.) If you can't get in touch with the owner (which often is the case on the Internet), then you don't have permission.
Every piece of writing, photography, art, etc. is automatically copyrighted whether it is explicitly claimed to be so or not. Some folks believe you have to claim copyright explicitly in order to have it, but this is not the case. Public domain goes into effect after a certain amount of time (depending on the country), because the owner has explicitly released an item into the public domain, or for other reasons (see: Wikipedia:Public domain). —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 14:02, August 8, 2007 (PDT)
I have contacted the site for permission. Thanks for your help. Please don't delete it unless I don't get permission. I will go to Wiki & sign in to let Wikipedia have permission (I got the image from there in the first place) if approved. As for another image (for the Coptic Church in Toronto), I will try to do the same in order to fix my mistake (only after I'm done with this mess). If I have still made a mistake, or if you have any concerns, please let me know.
God Bless,
~ Troy 12:38, August 9, 2007 (PDT)
Sorry, I was a bit busy over the last while. Unfortunately, I could not contact the owners for this image or "File:St Mark's CopticChurch--TO.jpg". These images must be dealt with. I apologise for the delay and am willing to co-operate to the best of my ability. Send me a message ASAP if you have any concerns. ~ Troy 02:10, May 7, 2008 (UTC)
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