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==[[MOdern Greek Saints]]==
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==[[Modern Greek Saints]]==
1. St. Nektarios of Aegina
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''Source of list:'' [http://www.greekorthodox.org.au/general/spirituality/moderndaysaints#anchor1 The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia - Modern Day Saints of the Greek Orthodox Church]
2. St. Nicholas Planas of Athens
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#St. Nektarios of Aegina
3. St. Savvas of Kalymnos
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#St. Nicholas Planas of Athens
4. St. George of Ioannina
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#St. Savvas of Kalymnos
5. St. Nikodimos of Mount Athos
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#St. George of Ioannina
6. St. Symeon of Trapezoundos
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#St. Nikodimos of Mount Athos
7. St. Kosmas the New Hieromartyr & Equal-to-the Apostles of Aetolia
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#St. Symeon of Trapezoundos
8. St. Zacharias the New Martyr of Patra
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#St. Kosmas the New Hieromartyr & Equal-to-the Apostles of Aetolia
9. St. Dimitrios the New Martyr of Constantinople
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#St. Zacharias the New Martyr of Patra
10. St. George the New Martyr of Crete
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#St. Dimitrios the New Martyr of Constantinople
11. St. Nicholas the New Martyr of Corinth
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#St. George the New Martyr of Crete
12. St. Theodore the New Martyr of Byzantium
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#St. Nicholas the New Martyr of Corinth
13. St. Kyranna the New Martyr of Thessaloniki
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#St. Theodore the New Martyr of Byzantium
14. St. Eudokia the Martyr of Heliopolis
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#St. Kyranna the New Martyr of Thessaloniki
15. St. George the New Wonderworker of Constantinople
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#St. Eudokia the Martyr of Heliopolis
16. St. Manuel the New Martyr of Crete
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#St. George the New Wonderworker of Constantinople
17. St. Myron the New Martyr of Crete
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#St. Manuel the New Martyr of Crete
18. St. Michael the New Martyr of Smyrna
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#St. Myron the New Martyr of Crete
19. St. John the New Martyr of Epiros
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#St. Michael the New Martyr of Smyrna
20. St. Nektarios the New Martyr of Optina
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#St. John the New Martyr of Epiros
21. St. Pachomios the New Martyr of Patmos
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#St. Nektarios the New Martyr of Optina
22. St. Epimachos the New Martyr of Alexandria
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#St. Pachomios the New Martyr of Patmos
23. St. New Martyr Nicholas of Metsovos
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#St. Epimachos the New Martyr of Alexandria
24. St. Andrew the New Martyr of Argentes
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#St. New Martyr Nicholas of Metsovos
25. St. Demetrios the New Martyr of Philadelphia
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#St. Andrew the New Martyr of Argentes
26. St. Constantine the New Martyr of the Hagarenes
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#St. Demetrios the New Martyr of Philadelphia
27. St. Theophanes the New Martyr of Constantinople
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#St. Constantine the New Martyr of the Hagarenes
28. St. Nikitas the New Martyr of Nisyros
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#St. Theophanes the New Martyr of Constantinople
29. Holy New Martrys Archpriest of Crete Gerasimus, Knossos Neophyte, Xepponessos Ioachim, Lampe Hierotheus, Seteia Zacharius, Kisamos Melchisadek, Piopoleos Kallinicus and Those Martyred with Them.
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#St. Nikitas the New Martyr of Nisyros
30. St. Michael the New Martyr of Athens
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#Holy New Martrys Archpriest of Crete Gerasimus, Knossos Neophyte, Xepponessos Ioachim, Lampe Hierotheus, Seteia Zacharius, Kisamos Melchisadek, Piopoleos Kallinicus and Those Martyred with Them.
31. Holy New Martyrs Elizabeth the Grand Duchess and the Novice Barbara
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#St. Michael the New Martyr of Athens
32. St. Kyprianos the New Martyr of Koutloumousiou Monastery
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#Holy New Martyrs Elizabeth the Grand Duchess and the Novice Barbara
33. St. Theophilos the New Martyr of Zakynthos
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#St. Kyprianos the New Martyr of Koutloumousiou Monastery
34. St. Theodore of Dardanelles
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#St. Theophilos the New Martyr of Zakynthos
35. Holy New Martyrs Triantaphillus of Zagoras and Anastasios of Thessolonica
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#St. Theodore of Dardanelles
36. St. John the New Martyr of Crete
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#Holy New Martyrs Triantaphillus of Zagoras and Anastasios of Thessolonica
37. St. John the New Martyr of Epiros
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#St. John the New Martyr of Crete
38. St. Juvenaly & Peter the Aleut, New Martyrs of Alaska
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#St. John the New Martyr of Epiros
39. St. Akylina the New Martyr of Thessaloniki
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#St. Juvenaly & Peter the Aleut, New Martyrs of Alaska
40. St. Chryssi the New Martyr of Greece
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#St. Akylina the New Martyr of Thessaloniki
41. St. Panteleimon the New Martyr of Asia Minor
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#St. Chryssi the New Martyr of Greece
42. St. John the New Martyr of Peleponnesos
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#St. Panteleimon the New Martyr of Asia Minor
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#St. John the New Martyr of Peleponnesos
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== What is a Greek saint? ==
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The definition this article gives is they "who were born or died in Greece and/or whose relics have survived in Greece". Well, I'm not sure if this is true. What would a saint born and died in Asia Minor, i.e. present-day Turkey, be? A Turk saint? I think that this is false. Possibly the only Turkish saints would be those new martyrs born Ottomans, converted to Christianity and martyred, namely Ahmed the Calligrapher and a few others. However, the Rum millet during the Ottoman empire was multi-ethnic and the Ottoman millet was Muslim exclusively. So, in a way, even these saints would not qualify as Turks.
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The Roman empire, terminally defeated in 1453, had been a Greek-speaking empire since at least the 6th century and the "Romian ethnos", come into being after Charlemagne was crowned a Roman empire, gradually led to a neo-Hellenic ethnogenesis. Between 11th and 15th centuries, the Romian self-conscience was Greek. So, I propose that the Romians/Byzantines after the Schism and until the Fall of Constantinople would be categorized as Greeks.
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As far as the Rum millet is concerned, I know that it was a multi-ethnic community for centuries. But in 1922, when a population exchange took part between Greece and Turkey, all Christians from Asia Minor came to Greece, no matter what their language was. There were people that could not speak a Greek word. Similarly, all Muslims left Greece for Turkey, even if their mother tongue was Greek. So, I propose that the saints of this period from/in Asia Minor and proper Greece be classified as Greeks, except if otherwise proven. [[User:Rhodion|Rhodion]] 01:40, November 23, 2012 (HST)

Latest revision as of 04:40, November 23, 2012

Modern Greek Saints

Source of list: The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia - Modern Day Saints of the Greek Orthodox Church

  1. St. Nektarios of Aegina
  2. St. Nicholas Planas of Athens
  3. St. Savvas of Kalymnos
  4. St. George of Ioannina
  5. St. Nikodimos of Mount Athos
  6. St. Symeon of Trapezoundos
  7. St. Kosmas the New Hieromartyr & Equal-to-the Apostles of Aetolia
  8. St. Zacharias the New Martyr of Patra
  9. St. Dimitrios the New Martyr of Constantinople
  10. St. George the New Martyr of Crete
  11. St. Nicholas the New Martyr of Corinth
  12. St. Theodore the New Martyr of Byzantium
  13. St. Kyranna the New Martyr of Thessaloniki
  14. St. Eudokia the Martyr of Heliopolis
  15. St. George the New Wonderworker of Constantinople
  16. St. Manuel the New Martyr of Crete
  17. St. Myron the New Martyr of Crete
  18. St. Michael the New Martyr of Smyrna
  19. St. John the New Martyr of Epiros
  20. St. Nektarios the New Martyr of Optina
  21. St. Pachomios the New Martyr of Patmos
  22. St. Epimachos the New Martyr of Alexandria
  23. St. New Martyr Nicholas of Metsovos
  24. St. Andrew the New Martyr of Argentes
  25. St. Demetrios the New Martyr of Philadelphia
  26. St. Constantine the New Martyr of the Hagarenes
  27. St. Theophanes the New Martyr of Constantinople
  28. St. Nikitas the New Martyr of Nisyros
  29. Holy New Martrys Archpriest of Crete Gerasimus, Knossos Neophyte, Xepponessos Ioachim, Lampe Hierotheus, Seteia Zacharius, Kisamos Melchisadek, Piopoleos Kallinicus and Those Martyred with Them.
  30. St. Michael the New Martyr of Athens
  31. Holy New Martyrs Elizabeth the Grand Duchess and the Novice Barbara
  32. St. Kyprianos the New Martyr of Koutloumousiou Monastery
  33. St. Theophilos the New Martyr of Zakynthos
  34. St. Theodore of Dardanelles
  35. Holy New Martyrs Triantaphillus of Zagoras and Anastasios of Thessolonica
  36. St. John the New Martyr of Crete
  37. St. John the New Martyr of Epiros
  38. St. Juvenaly & Peter the Aleut, New Martyrs of Alaska
  39. St. Akylina the New Martyr of Thessaloniki
  40. St. Chryssi the New Martyr of Greece
  41. St. Panteleimon the New Martyr of Asia Minor
  42. St. John the New Martyr of Peleponnesos

What is a Greek saint?

The definition this article gives is they "who were born or died in Greece and/or whose relics have survived in Greece". Well, I'm not sure if this is true. What would a saint born and died in Asia Minor, i.e. present-day Turkey, be? A Turk saint? I think that this is false. Possibly the only Turkish saints would be those new martyrs born Ottomans, converted to Christianity and martyred, namely Ahmed the Calligrapher and a few others. However, the Rum millet during the Ottoman empire was multi-ethnic and the Ottoman millet was Muslim exclusively. So, in a way, even these saints would not qualify as Turks.

The Roman empire, terminally defeated in 1453, had been a Greek-speaking empire since at least the 6th century and the "Romian ethnos", come into being after Charlemagne was crowned a Roman empire, gradually led to a neo-Hellenic ethnogenesis. Between 11th and 15th centuries, the Romian self-conscience was Greek. So, I propose that the Romians/Byzantines after the Schism and until the Fall of Constantinople would be categorized as Greeks.

As far as the Rum millet is concerned, I know that it was a multi-ethnic community for centuries. But in 1922, when a population exchange took part between Greece and Turkey, all Christians from Asia Minor came to Greece, no matter what their language was. There were people that could not speak a Greek word. Similarly, all Muslims left Greece for Turkey, even if their mother tongue was Greek. So, I propose that the saints of this period from/in Asia Minor and proper Greece be classified as Greeks, except if otherwise proven. Rhodion 01:40, November 23, 2012 (HST)

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