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Islam

2005-10-13T04:12:37Z

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The [[religion]] '''Islam''' teaches that that [[God]] (in Arabic, ''All

Marriage

2005-10-13T03:52:55Z

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'''Marriage''' (also, '''matrimony''') is one of the seven [[holy mysteries]] or [[sacraments]] in the Orthodox Church, as well as many other [[Christian]] traditions. It serves to unite a woman and a man in eternal union before God, with the purpose of following Christ and His [[Gospel]] and raising up a faithful, holy [[family]] through their holy union. It is referred to extensively in both the [[Old Testament|Old]] and [[New Testament]]s. Christ declared the essential indissolvibility of marriage in the Gospel.

A [[wedding]] is the holy ceremony which joins the spouses-to-be.

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==See also==
*[[Pastoral Guidelines#Weddings|Pastoral Guidelines for Weddings]]

[[Category:Bioethics]]
[[Category:Ethics]]
[[Category:Liturgics]]
[[Category:Sacraments]]

User:Dpr

2005-10-13T03:44:25Z

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User:Dpr

2005-10-13T03:41:57Z

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Talk:Orthodox Church

2005-10-13T03:38:10Z

Dpr: Other names (Greek, Russian, etc)

''bride of Christ'' / ''body of Christ'': I think they're ''epithets'', not titles. I'll look into that and report back.

I think the usage for something like ''pope'' or ''ecumenical patriarch'' or ''bishop'' is like the terms ''mom'' and ''dad''. If I'm referring to my mom, it's lowercase. If I'm using ''Mom'' as her name — e.g., "That's not what Mom would do!" — then it's uppercase. I wish I had my CMOS with me. Better yet, I wish they'd put the CMOS online. --[[User:Basil|Basil]] 23:07, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)

: After research, they are indeed epithets. See [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=epithet Dictionary.com for ''epithet'']. In addition to the example of "The Great Emancipator" as an epithet for President Lincoln, see also [http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/cmosfaq/cmosfaq.CapitalizationTitles.html#qa100 Chicago Manual of Style - Q & A - Capitalization, Titles]. The CMOS also prefers not to capitalize nouns like ''pope'' unless being used as a title (i.e., with a name): ''Pope Benign XXI''. That's earlier on that same page. --[[User:Basil|Basil]] 23:34, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Other names (Greek, Russian, etc) ==

:''(especially in the contemporary West) as the Eastern Orthodox Church or the Greek Orthodox Church''
In terms of giving examples of other (overly limited) names to the Orthodox Church, shouldn't ''Russian Orthodox Church'' be included here? --[[User:Dpr|Dpr]] 23:38, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

User talk:FrJohn

2005-10-13T03:24:10Z

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[[/archived discussion 1]] (through 09-07-2005)

== OrthodoxWiki and WikiKto ==

Hi,

I would have wished to know if a partnership could be found between OrthoxWiki and [http://fr.wikikto.org WikiKto, a free catholic encyclopedia]. To mean, this exchange, I indicated on the banner page of WikiKto, a bond towards your encyclopedia. If you agree, want to mean it to me in my page : [http://fr.wikikto.org/index.php/Discussion_Utilisateur:Davidias]

Tanks, David Dias

==Japan Pictures==

My father-in-law, Victor Pokrovsky, was the choir director for Met. Sergius. So many of the pictures from his collection that my wife now has. Also, Matushka Maria from the Nagoya Church has given me electronic copies of the 'ancient' times of the church. Sometimes I loose track of what I may have access to.

It is really interesting to read about these old missionaries and wonder how many people from today will so remembered in the same manner in the future. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 12:46, 16 Sep 2005 (EDT)

== A brother's attack on the Coptic Church of Alexandria ==

Please carefully read HH Pope Shenouda III's [http://www.copticchurch.org/Texts/Spirituals/Natofchr.pdf ''The Nature of Christ''] before attacking us! Also watch [http://realserver.goarch.org/ram/en/bartholomew_interview.ram HH Patriarch Bartholomew I video] and his comments on the Coptic Church and her perfect Christological position. Those who invented monothelism were the Greek Orthodox. "The ease with which Egypt was conquered by Muslims appears to have been due to the treachery of the governor of Egypt, Patriarch Cyrus [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04597c.htm], Melchite (i.e., Byzantine/Chalcedonian Orthodox, not Coptic) Patriarch of Alexandria, and the incompetence of the generals of the Byzantine forces. Cyrus had persecuted the local Coptic Christians. '''He is one of the authors of monothelism''', a seventh century heresy, and some supposed him to have been secretly a convert to Islam." I appeal to Fr John to interfere in this matter, and until resolved I won't be contributing to Orthodox Wiki any longer. In Christ, --Arbible

== Thanks, and Official Statements ==

Many thanks, Father John. Please forgive me, a great sinner, and remember me in your fervent prayers.

You may find these Official Statements useful for the ongoing discussion/planned article:

http://www.orthodoxunity.org/state01.html

http://www.orthodoxunity.org/state02.html

http://www.orthodoxunity.org/state04.html

Other related documents: http://www.orthodoxunity.org/statements.html

== On Patrick Barnes' site ==

This site does not "speak for the Orthodox Church" as its Webmaster rightly states in its 'About this Site' page. The page http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/ea_mono.aspx has many errors; for example, its stating that we haven't excommunicated Eutyches, which is totally wrong, as we all know. Thanks. God Bless.

== ...but it is an external link ==

No it does not speak for the Chalcedonian Orthodox churches, but it clearly states that and it is offered as an external link which the reader of Orthodox wiki may or may not click on at his or her own discretion.

-Julius

==Details==
I would be happy if the details of this discussion could be presented in a dispassionate manner on the Oriental Orthodox page. Remember, the goal is to present the thinking behind the different sides of the issue. I hope this could be a great tool for mutual understanding. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]] P.S. Hey you guys, please sign your names with three tildes to make it easier to access your user pages!

== Thanks. Please check out 'Talk:Fourth Ecumenical Council' ==

http://www2.orthodoxwiki.org/Talk:Fourth_Ecumenical_Council

Thank you very much+ [[User:Arbible|arbible]]

: Thank you again, Father. Done [[Fourth Ecumenical Council: Coptic Point of View|as suggested]]. These are all public domain articles (the Coptic Synaxarium text is not copyrighted, neither are HH Pope Shenouda III writings, of which also only a short excerpt is presented (fair use), and/or are 1990s Coptic apologetic writings intended by their writers for wide dissemination by all means (at that time via mail lists and early Web sites). They have been lightly copyedited, e.g., correcting the names of Emperor Justinian and Proterius the Melchite Patriarch, and adding relevant external links. These Coptic apologetics also appeared in our freeware work, Encyclopedia of the First Millennium of Christianity 1998 - Second Edition. See also http://www.monachos.net/mb/messages/4225/ORIENT3-20256.doc (not sure if Orthodox Wiki should also keep a copy of this important historical document). It states (among other key declarations), "''The (Chalcedonian) Orthodox agree that the Oriental Orthodox will continue to maintain their traditional cyrillian terminology of 'one nature of the incarnate Logos' (mia fusiV tou qeou logou sesarkwmenh), since they acknowledge the double consubstantiality of the Logos which Eutyches denied. The Orthodox also use this terminology. The Oriental Orthodox agree that the Orthodox are justified in their use of the two-natures formula, since they acknowledge that the distinction is ‘in thought alone (th qewria monh). Cyril interpreted correctly this use in his letter to John of Antioch and his letters to Acacius of Melitene (PG 77, 184-201). to Eulogius (PG 77. 224-228) and to Succensus (PG 77, 228-245).''" In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]]

==Wikipedia lifts==
Father, are we allowed to copy-and-paste Wikipedia materially directly into OrthodoxWiki? Should there be some attribution? Thanks! --[[User:Dpr|Dpr]] 20:29, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)
:Thanks for your quick reply--an angel of the Internet ;) Anyway, I plan, when I participate in this Wiki, to do a great deal of Wikipedia importing and modifying...esp. considering there's a LOT more Christian material on that Wiki than this! Best wishes in Him, [[User:Dpr|Dpr]] 23:23, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)
:Question: ''(even for an historically oriented church like ours, there's probably not going to be enough of historic significance in the Church going on in a single year to warrant a whole article about it)''--is this really true? Do you think OrthodoxWiki wouldn't benefit from having links to years? --[[User:Dpr|Dpr]] 23:24, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

User talk:FrJohn

2005-10-13T03:23:20Z

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User talk:FrJohn

2005-10-13T00:29:18Z

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Sava of Serbia

2005-10-13T00:23:28Z

Dpr: copy from Wikipedia

'''Saint Sava''' ([[1175]] or [[1176]] - [[January 12]] [[1235]] or [[1236]]), originally the prince Rastko Nemanjic (son of the [[Serbia|Serbian]] ruler and founder of the Serbian medieval state [[Stefan Nemanja]] and brother of [[Stefan Prvovencani]], first Serbian king), is the first [[Patriarch of Serbia|Serb archbishop]] ([[1219]]-[[1233]]) and the most important saint in the [[Serbian Orthodox Church]].

In his youth (around [[1192]]) he escaped from home to join the orthodox monastic colony on [[Mount Athos]] (Holy Mountain on the [[Chalkidiki]] peninsula) and was given the name Sava. He first traveled to a [[Russia|Russian]] monastery and then moved to a [[Greece|Greek]] Monastery [[Vatoped]]. At the end of [[1197]] his father, king [[Stefan Nemanja]] joined him. In [[1198]] they together moved to and restored the abandoned monastery [[Hilandar]], which was at that time the center of Serbian Christian monastic life.

St. Sava's father took the monastic vows under the name Simeon, and died in [[Hilandar]] on [[February 13]] [[1200]]. He is also canonised, as [[Saint Simeon]].

After his father's death, Sava retreated to an [[ascetic]] monastery in [[Kareya]] which he built himself  in [[1199]]. He also wrote the Kareya Typicon both for [[Hilandar]] and for the monastery of ascetism. The last [[typicon]] is inscribed into the marble board at the ascetic monastery, which today also exists in it. He stayed on [[Athos]] until the end of [[1207]].

St. Sava managed to persuade the patriarch of the Greek/Byzantine Orthodox Church to elevate St. Sava to the position of the first Serbian [[Archbishop]], thereby establishing the Independence of Archbishopic of the Serbian Church in the year of [[1219]].

Saint Sava is celebrated as the founder of the independent Serbian Orthodox Church and as patron saint of education and medicine among [[Serbs]]. His day is observed on [[January 27]]th of the [[Gregorian calendar]] ([[January 14]]th of the [[Julian calendar]] still observed by the Serbian Church). Since the 1830's, Saint Sava has become the patron saint of Serb schools and schoolchildren. On his day, students partake in recitals in church.

After participating in a ceremony called Blessing of the Waters he developed a cough that progressed into pneumonia. He died from pneumonia in the evening between Saturday and Sunday, January 14, 1235.[http://www.kosovo.com/sava.html] He was buried at the Cathedral of the Holy Forty Martyrs in Trnovo. He remained in Trnovo until May 6, 1237 when his sacred bones were moved to the [[monastery Mileseva]] in southern Serbia. 360 years later the [[Ottoman Turks]] dug out his bones and burnt them on the main square in Belgrade.

The [[Temple of Saint Sava]] in [[Belgrade]], whose construction was planned in [[1939]], begun in [[1985]] and awaits completion by [[2004]] is the largest active Orthodox temple in the world today. It was built on the place where the holy bones were burned.

==Quote==

''At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side, and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Ireneus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth--no one''

-'' St. Sava to Ireneus, 13th century''

==See also==
*[[Hilandar Research Library]]'', Resource Center for Medieval Slavic Studies, University of Ohio (Columbus)
*[[Temple of Saint Sava]] in [[Belgrade]]

==External links and references==
* [http://www.slavicnet.com/pls/lib/bib.search Library ''Saint Sava''] - Online Library Cataloging System
* [http://www.rastko.org.yu/knjizevnost/liturgicka/svsava-sabrana/index_c.html Collected works] (in the [[Serbian language]])

[[Category:Saints|Sava]]
[[Category:Serbian history]]
[[Category:Serbian Orthodox Church]]